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Chevrolet Impala, Sedan
#733 of 13621 To Teo and Dewdrops38
Jan 18, 2001 (3:33 pm)
You have similar problems and dissatisfaction. A very frustrating situation. We are all interested in the outcomes of your cases! I am still unconvinced that GM does not know the origin of the problem. I believe they do but are trying to avoid a massive recall. Thus the fix-this, fix-that response until you are worn down. And the notion of a lubricant fix is just ludicrous! Bushings on suspensions are not meant to be lubricated.....I, and others, will follow this matter with interest. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I will not have much to contribute as I put on only about 6,000 miles/year. My warranty will have expired or this problem will have been resolved before I encounter your current miseries. As an aside, I bought the Impala to take me into my early retirement years. I wanted a large car, gasoline mileage was not terribly important, safety was paramount (four-wheel large discs, excellent crash-test results, side air-bag on the driver's side, etc.). The Impala seemed to have it all! You know, I have owned Saturns since 1995 and they do have some flaws but, putting those aside, I enjoyed the Saturns. My experience with flaws (warped brake rotors) at the dealer was excellent: replaced with no questions asked. I went back to Chevrolet for a bigger car (I do not like the Saturn LS series) with the hope that the first FWD Impala was well-engineered. I noted an earlier comment on GM Beta testing and I hope the poster is not correct!! In any case, I do hope your experiences are not wide-spread but if they are, GM will have the good sense to do something about it for you and the many other buyers of Impalas and GM family related cars. BTW, I do remember the "lazy" rack and pinion steering problem of the 1980s. GM never admitted that one.....Good luck to all.
#734 of 13621 Don't worry..all engine cradle problems etc will be solved
Jan 18, 2001 (3:54 pm)
To all of you that are having the engine cradle problems and steering problems. I think that GM will be forced to do something once the fleet cars start developing these problems. E.g. cop cars, taxi drivers etc. Cause cops, and other gov't agencies won't take crap from GM! So if you have a lemon right now, just let them do their repairs and if it still doesn't work make them buy the car back!!
The other scenario is that something terrible happens to a impala driver (god forbid!). But say someone dies due to a fault of the engine cradle! e.g. engine cradle falls apart at highway speeds and the car flips..person dies?
GM is so stupid that they don't put more effort in fixing this serious front end/engine cradle problem now! The more impalas that roll out the assembly line, the more money the company will lose if they are forced to recall vehicles.
I am glad that I bought the extra warranty, cause it seems to me that sooner or later my impala will run into the problems that some of you are facing!!
On another note, I was wondering whether all 4 of the round tail lamps light up or just the two on the side??
Jan 18, 2001 (4:14 pm)
Hi, I am getting ready to buy a program 2000 Impala with 29,000. What should I look at or make sure to check. Want to avoid problems if possible. Didn't know if there is anything special to watch for? It drives, rides and looks great. I am trading a 1999 Astro Van to get my wife better gas mileage. The last Impala I owned was 1978 model. Loved it hope this one can live up to my expectations. Thanks for any info and advice.
#736 of 13621 front end noise
Jan 18, 2001 (4:18 pm)
Do you think these front end noises are across the entire W-body line or just confined to the impala and intrigue.
My intrigue has had most of its front end replaced, but still has the popping noises. These popping noises have been isolated to the front strut jounce bumpers. The only way to silence them is to lube them. A month or so later the noise will come back.
My intermediate steering shaft was replaced, this has done nothing to help the noise.
I have clunking noises sometimes when going over bumps.
When it is cold outside my REAR suspension will clunk over big bumps.
When i leased my intrigue it was my first car purchase in 12 years. It was a financial stretch for me. I was incredibly excited and enthusiastic about the car. Its engine and tranny are incredible, I love its looks and interior and the way it handles. But, boy has GM let me down. Do they even care about their customers.
I feel like they are driving me to the imports. GM is losing market share and seems adrift. I am incredibly disappointed in their company.
It doesn't seem that the grand prix and regal are suffering from these suspension maladies. I feel for you impala guys that are dealing with problems that the intriguers have been dealing with since 1998.
I feel a class action lawsuit coming on. Good luck guys.
#737 of 13621 Shamino Lights....
Jan 18, 2001 (4:26 pm)
Just the 2 Outboard Round Taillights Light up,(Head/Parking/Brake/Turn) and a side marker light on each side of the Taillamp housing that wraps around the quarter panel..(comes on w/head/parking lights) the inner 2 round lights are used for back up lights only and have a big round reflector around the back-up Lens....Don
#738 of 13621 Re:#726-shamino
Jan 18, 2001 (4:27 pm)
Only the outer taillights light up, the inner ones are reverse lights, unless you are one of those street racers who rig them up to light...
Anyway, the cradle design may be at fault, or maybe the design of the reinforced police cradle(baby cops?)is okay, and the material choice is the problem like someone alluded to earlier, and I also mentioned. Either way, I agree with shamino, that if the problem exists in the police packages, too, then it's not just the regular production cradles(when the bow-tie breaks, the cradle will fall? Hope not!!!). If the police cradles show no problems, there still is a problem with the production unit. Something must be done, and espescially if someone gets injured/dies due to the design/choice of material defect. It's not like something you misuse/abuse and get into trouble with. This is a passive(for the(driver/owner), self generating problem, which I believe teo said may even be a contributing problem to the streering gear malady, though different symptoms. We just must all push forward with are knowledge, insight and corporate ablities if we are concerned in solving these problems so we can enjoy our wonderful cars the way we were intended to, even by Chevy/GM. It's their goof, not ours. They have to deal with it, or potentially lose many loyal, otherwise satisfied customers, and potential customers we have influence over. They wouldn't want to do that, would they? The truth is out there... We just have to find it! B) o~O--------
#739 of 13621 Bz4 and others...
Jan 18, 2001 (4:42 pm)
Based on my own research, it appears to be that the only two cars in the entire GM North America line-up that have Aluminum engine cradles installed are the Y2K Impala and Montecarlo. All other vehicles from the W-body family and other platforms have STEEL cradles only. For instance one interesting fact is that the new Pontiac Bonneville has a Steel engine cradle but the hood is made of ALUMINUM. Sometimes I wished that GM had put that aluminum into other parts of the car (Hood, trunk lid, doors, roof, fenders) and had left that engine cradle ALONE and made in regular steel.
I am getting really upset at this whole ordeal....I find this UNACCEPTABLE on a $25K automobile. Safety items on any car today should be PERFECT, no flaws. GM intended to break new ground in aluminum structural vehicle applications, but something went wrong at the time of execution....oversight?, not enough testing....I would be really disturbing if GM released these cars knowing about these problems (Beta test principle) and fix the cars one a one to one basis.
Day 2 (Actually this is the 4th day the car is out of service due to this crappola) of this nonsense and no a single word yet from the dealer.
I have read the ongoing Intrigue owners saga as well, no wonder Olds is history today.
Of the other W-body cars, the Grand Prix, Century and Regal seem to be more problem...as far as I am concerned no more W-body cars for me.
#740 of 13621 I meant to say...
Jan 18, 2001 (4:43 pm)
The Grand Prix, Century and Regal seem to be more problem FREE.
#741 of 13621 teo
Jan 18, 2001 (5:11 pm)
You can edit your posts up to 30 minutes from the time they are first posted. Just click on the edit button, change what you want, then repost.
Don't know what to buy next. Gm has really got me gun shy. DC has many quality problems and their trannies stink. Ford has problems too and their tannies shift poorly and also stink.
#742 of 13621 Teo-Engine Cradles et al.
Jan 18, 2001 (6:08 pm)
Yes, when the initial Police reports come in the %^&** will hit the fan if there are problems. In an earlier post, I noted that RCMP, OPP and possibly City Police were testing the Impala. I have never been a Police Officer but if I were, the last thing I need on a Police chase or whatever is a steering problem! We will hear soon unless those evaluations are suppressed. Even so, there are always leaks. The truth will come out. I hope it is positive for the future of GM/Chevrolet....