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#6702 of 13621 Dodge police car
Nov 26, 2001 (8:30 am)
I'm a week or so behind on my newspaper reading, but ran across a brief article in the 11/16 NY Times to share.
"Bad Boys, Flee Not: There's a New Cop Car in Town"
"After a 12-year hiatus, Dodge is returning to the police market with its 2002 Dodge Intrepid police car. The Dodge Interpid R/T is outfitted with a 242-horsepower 3.5-liter V-6 engine, high-performance suspension and heavy-duty brakes.
Chrysler dominated the market from the 1960's to the early 1980's with models like the Dodge Coronet and the Plymouth Gran Fury. After General Motors quit producing the Chevrolet Caprice in 1996, Ford won the bulk of the approximately 70,000-unit-a-year market. Each year, Ford sells 55,000 to 60,000 Crown Victorias, which use rear-drive and a V-8 engine - features favored by police officers. G.M. makes up the rest, selling 10,000 to 15,000 Chevrolet Impalas, which use front-wheel drive and a V-6 engine, to police each year."
Think this could up the ante a bit on producing a stronger Impala (SS?), which would also cover as the police version?
#6703 of 13621 00impala noises/hell
Nov 26, 2001 (8:31 am)
Maybe the year/vin # theory is wrong. But maybe the new part # for the ISS indicates a more recent fix..or at least attempt. Have you had the new part installed?
I do hope this is settled very quickly. I'm on the edge here with the 0% but am having a hard time pursuing a vehicle with a possible continuing structural problem.
Nov 26, 2001 (10:44 am)
"I'm on the edge here with the 0% but am having a hard time pursuing a vehicle with a possible continuing structural problem"
Sorry I disagree. This car is solid in construction and build quality and if anything an ISS problem is not an indicative of serious structural problems. There have been close to 300K or 400K Impalas sold since 1999 and if there have been catastrophic structural problems I am sure these would have been well documented by now.
The cradle problem is more an annoyance than anything else. The ISS is a safety problem because the part needs to maintain proper lubrication at all times at the fix has already been issued by GM.
I am all the way with you as to make certain about the quality, reliability and safety of a car prior to purchasing it. $20K is serious money for most of us. But in the other hand if you feel hesitant about the car there are only two things you can do:
1) Buy it and experience the car yourself (You won't be dissapointed)
2) Or pass on it and make yourself the question.."What if?"
Life is full of choices and those choices have their ups and downs, more or less risk. Buying a car, and I mean any car, is a risky proposition...luck plays a part on it. If you need the best reliability, then buy a Toyota but don't complain the car is boring and has the chracter of a refrigerator. If you want something more exciting and are willing to take more reliability risks, then buy an European (German) car or an American car.
Cars are a crap shot. Again if you really like the Impala, then buy it and take advantage of the special financing rates. But if you are going to buy it and then everyday becomes an axiety attack thinking about all the bad things that might come with the car or being pushed up the wall whenever you see a problem/negative post, then I respectfully suggest that you buy something else, cause you won't be happy. If you are dumping $20K+ for a car, make sure you'll be happy about doing so.
These Internet boards are a double edged sword...On on end, you get loads and loads of useful information on the other end you can also get lots of incorrect/misleading and unverified information. Nothing really controls content in these boards so you need to make a good judgment and come to terms whether you'll be buying the car or not.
Remember that there are 100K Impala units sold per month. Obviously we don't have 100K+ responses from each and every owner here. If we want a more accurate statistical sample, then check Consumer Reports or any other publication that can collect reliability data on a larger scale.
Also remember that people tend to post more when they are having problems with their cars. Happy owners do post also but others just lurk or don't post at all.
Don's steering noise problem on his 2001 is unfortunate, but also take into consideration that he is the only one having this problem as far as posters here.
I have a lot of confidence on the Impala. I have recommended it to friends, family and even strangers. My sister and brother in law bought one last month with the 0% financing and they couldn't be happier with the car. I have made tons of road trips in our 2001 LS even in isolated roads late at night and no problems or fears that the car is going to crap out or it is going to fall apart. Whether the car is hot or cold, it starts every time I put the key in, without hesitations. My steering is nice, tight and quiet. The brakes stop the car with alacraty. The interior is tight and quiet as the first day I got the car.
What you say is true to an extent. There are no 100% guarantee that the Impala or any other car will never have any problems. But if you don't like the prospect of problems, then buy a Toyota Camry (They brake too) and sleep better at night.
My point is this: You will be passing up on a great car if you let the opportunity to get it slip by..
Before buying the Impala, I had only owned Hondas and Acuras for 12 years straight. I had bowed to never buy another "American" car again. So here I am recommending an "American" car to everyone, something that I could not have done just 3 years ago.
But...it is up to you to decide.
Nov 26, 2001 (10:48 am)
Plus, they look cool, and they're big.
Nov 26, 2001 (1:08 pm)
I have to agree with Teo on that one, I have had my share of issues with my 2000 LS, but never once have I thought of turning it in for another car. I have been fortunate to have my problems fixed the first time around. My wife gets on my case about buying a 1st year American made car, and "all the problems" I have had with it, but I am now as determined as every to put 200,000 miles on this car before I get rid of it.(I'm 25% of the way there already.
I had an ignition lock up on me and it cost $600 to fix w/ the tow. I feel it was an unfortunate incident, seeing as how no one else has mentioned it occurring to them. You win some, you lose some, I am confidant that I will not have to replace anything extrenuous on this car again. My feeling is if it hasn't happened after 50,000 miles, it probably won't happen.
On the tires, I replaced my Eagle GA's with Dunlop SP Sport A2, it is a firmer ride then the GA's, but I feel a little quieter, and more responsive. The Tiger Paws are a lower rated speed tire, so it is softer and quieter. I prefer the firmer ride, it's all about personal opinion.
#6707 of 13621 Teo...............
Nov 26, 2001 (2:19 pm)
I talked to the Service Director this afternoon, He said to get it in there as soon as I can and they would be glad to check it out, I am taking it Friday morning along with my LS and having my Oil Changed and my Steering Wheel Centered while we wait and the Blue base will spend the Day. He said it may be that ISS....I do not know if the P/N to the Newest ISS put in my LS a week ago is the same one in my Base built in June. He said the newest one is corrected by design to handle that Lube problem of the previous ones (well into 2001??) , maybe they are sooo new that they didn't hit the Impala assembley line until November? Remember the first one the dealership recieved was not the right one.. and they aquired the newest P/N'rd one to put in my LS.??? I'm sure they will help us out, At first ya get mad then Reason sets in,,, if it is a defective part and can be replaced then no sweat. Don
Nov 26, 2001 (2:23 pm)
Don, thanks for the update. I meant to ask you before if aside from the clunks felt in the steering of your '01 Base, have you noticed any changes in the steering in terms of tightness feeling, etc?
It could be the ISS, but I have a feeling that something else broke in there and it has nothing to do with the cradle...very weird.
Best of luck and hopefully is nothing major.
#6709 of 13621 teo: continuation of 26" wheels form intrigue thread
Nov 26, 2001 (3:54 pm)
Yep 26" wheels! Can you beleive it? Those things must weigh 50 lbs each. I don't guess your ball joints would last very long.
I had heard of 22" wheels, but when they showed the 24" wheels i was speechless. In the next segment they showed the 26 inchers!
If you call 20" wheels "dubs". What do you call 26" wheels?
Nov 26, 2001 (4:33 pm)
The steering feels OK,,, Just "Everytime" I am moving and turn Left, I get this "CLUNK" Like I ran over a rock in the road, This is good in a way, as it does it "EVERYTIME" so it should not be hard to detect/diagnose...When I turn the wheels left and right sitting still, I get one LOUD "CLACK" and 2 smaller Clackity,Clacks.,so to speak... ha ha.... EVERYTIME>> and I am amazed at the decible level of these,,Very Loud.. Will see what happens... Don
#6711 of 13621 Great trip
Nov 26, 2001 (6:37 pm)
to PA, The LS with the 3.8 had no problems with the mountains or curves- wet
or dry. 4 adults with luggage and then added a few bags of goodies to bring home.
just turned 10,000 miles while on the trip. Hope all had a great holiday and
didn't overeat too badly.