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#12655 of 13621 2001/2004
Jul 18, 2004 (6:28 pm)
We have 2 Impalas - a burgundy 2001 base with the 3.8L and a blue 2004 LS.
The 2001 we got in Oct-2001 and has 75,000 miles on it and the 2004 is 8 months old and has 16,000 miles.
I drive 500 miles a week round-trip to work and I drove the 2001 for 3 years and 70,000 miles and now I drive the LS.
I ordered the 2001 because we wanted 3 comfortable seats in the back for the kids and in the LS the middle rear seat isn't comfortable.
The 3.8L has performed flawlessly in both cars.
The 04 feels a little quicker with less pressure on the gas pedal.
It does seem like Chevy has softened the suspension since 2001.
I drove the 2001 last week to work and it definitely feels firmer than the 04 LS.
Firmer on the highway and firmer cornering.
The 04 has more lean. It can't take the corners as fast and it doesn't feel quite as secure as the 01 at high speed when riding close to the lane divider, but the 04 is still damn good.
Overall handling is still about the same.
My 2004 LS was built last summer and it does have the trunk strap.
If they don't come with that now how cheap can GM get ?
The 2001 came with a coin holder and a black muffler, but not the 04.
The base seats in the 2001 are more comfortable both front and rear and look like they will last longer than the sport cloth in the LS.
The bucket seats in the LS are too short and I'm not tall.
I've had no problems with the Goodyear GA's on either car.
They still had tread on them at 60,000 when I got new tires for the 01.
Everything still works fine in both cars, including Onstar.
For us the Impala has been a good and dependable car.
We got the 04 because of our experience with the 01.
Both cars look great and run great.
#12656 of 13621 Any concerns with getting an 04 Impala built in 03?
Jul 19, 2004 (9:03 am)
Wondering if there are any issues that have been resolved in Impalas built 40 days agao rather than 260 days in inventory...let's say a May 04 build vs a 10/03 build
#12657 of 13621 Any suggestion on Pricing my 2000 LS?
Jul 20, 2004 (8:37 am)
Big news....my wife is due with #4! Bad News....2 car seats and 2 kids can't fit in the backseat of the Impala.
I am hoping to unload it to a buyer and not deal with the stealer. I have read KBB, NADA and another one that I dont recall....it is dang hard to guess what I should put it up for.
2000 Impala LS with the 3800
Loaded / Leather / Remote starter
103,000 miles...almost entirely on highway.
What I like about this car over the Mazda (which I will have to get rid of as well...here comes minivan) is the gas mileage...I got 397 miles on 1 tank 2 weeks ago!!
Car is freshly detailed, good tires, no major problems..homelink button broke off for one of the garage door openers.
Oh well...I was thinking maybe aroubd $7k though I still $8.5 on it.
Jul 20, 2004 (7:48 pm)
MUST you refer to dealers as stealers?
That really is QUITE rude, totally uncalled for and a gross overgeneralization.
#12659 of 13621 Re: Any suggestion on Pricing my 2000 LS?
Jul 21, 2004 (6:22 am)
I agree with John. Auto sales people are just like you and I, trying to make a living in this world. They have mouths to feed and house payments to make. If they happen to get more of your money than average then that's YOUR burden. You gave it to 'em, they didn't steal it.
Jul 21, 2004 (9:04 am)
I've pretty much decided on a base Impala with 1SB, Sport Cloth Gray, Buckets, and ABS.
There are only a few cars in New England that have what I want in it. Colors are limited to Silver, Blue or Black. Blue, Black are more maintenance to look clean than Silver but Silver screams rental at me. But that won't make or break a sale.
My dealer has a 2004 Sandstone with the Sport Appearance package, audio wheel controls, Mirror Group, ABS, Sunroof,1SB for about 800-1000 more. Nice car but really am not enthused by the color. Any other color except white and I'd grab it.
Also while we are at it, I have a copy of the dealer locater of the cars I have been looking at....Listed it says MRSP 24,750- no brainer, Age 29...that how many days on his lot or from the factory?
Now DIP is listed as 22884.38...dealer invoice price? Next to it is GMS which says 21995.78....not sure what this means but perhaps Gross Margin Sale?
Price quoted to me on this car was 22750...I take it that the dealre can sell the car between the GMS and the DIP to make a profit?
Little confused here but thats why I'm posting
Leaning towards black even though I see stone chip city
#12661 of 13621 dealers are stealers!/impala
Jul 21, 2004 (1:58 pm)
.....I have been around longer then most of you on this board here, I am 54...You are right that car sales staff are working people like others, but often like many who work on a commission basis (anyone who works in sales on commission) the truth can often be twisted or misconstrued or unethical practices used to squeeze that extra buck out of you, thats how they make their living..You know when someone is working on commission whether in a car dealership or an appliance store.....within one minute of walking in, from nowhere a sales guy with a plaid sports jacket appears, with that big synthetic smile! HOW ARE YOU TODAY! who wants to be your best friend right! we have all seen these guys.....I have had many good experiences in my 35 years of car ownership, I own a 2001 Impala. and I have also had may bad experiences. I hate it when car sales staff try to convince you that you need that undercoating, or extra warranty, or $37 trunk net (that use to be free) ....your right it is up to the individual to make sure you don't pay more then you should for service or price of the car you are buying. Hopefully the commissioned salesman (woman) is honest and not sell you something and offer you a fair price...I believe often first time buyers, (we have all been there) young women and seniors get duped..or convinced into believing that they need that extra warranty or upgraded whatever,..(that they probably don't need) they are easy targets that puts that extra $10 commission in the sales clerks pockets...Over the years I have known several commissioned sales people (from all types of commissioned work) and I have heard/learned of all the tricks of the trades that are used to squeeze that extra hundred from you to bring them that fatter pay check or bonus at the end of the month by often selling services or products that the consumer didn't come in for or doesn't need!. An honest commissioned sales clerk is a person who would only sell a person what they need not what the sales clerk thinks what they should have!!..it happens more then you think!! I am not generalizing and they all don't do it . we have all seen shows like 20/20 and 60 minutes.....Car salesmen & lawyers, are always voted to the the top of list, of least trusted and most unethical.....I am sure there are very good companies that work under commissoned sales but the bad ones are the ones we seem to remember the most!!!
#12662 of 13621 Re:dealers are stealers!/impala
Jul 22, 2004 (6:00 am)
There are plenty of us on this forum that are your age or older and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But why limit your comparison to auto sales people and lawyers? It seems to me you could say the same about doctors, dentists, plumbers, electricians, roofers, mechanics, computer technicians, appliance sales/repair people, furniture dealers, realtors, insurance agents, travel agents, morticians, evangelists/clergy, and let’s not forget politicians. Seems the world is just plumb full of stealers. Don't get me wrong, I'm not endorsing unethical behavior. But you can't simply label a profession, any profession, as “stealers”. It’s up to the consumer to make educated and informed decisions. Again, don’t do your homework, don’t watch out for #1, and you’ll be giving your money away.
#12663 of 13621 Re: Ok...what color? [zx3for_me]
Jul 22, 2004 (6:48 am)
GMS is the price paid by GM employees and family (including retired employees and their families). GM also has a plan for "friends" - which is the what a GM supplier would pay. To qualify, you need to be sponsered by a GM employee or family member. That price is usually about $150-$200 below the dealer invoice price. I believe DIP is the dealer invoice price. But, keep in mind, the dealer pays less than the invoice price, when you factor in dealer incentives, dealer rebates, floor plan incentives etc. The price you were given is below the dealer invoice price. I think that's a good deal. Good luck. I'm on my second Impala (first was silver, second is dark carmine red) and I have had no problems with either vehicle. I'd get another one when my lease is up, but after 2 Impala's, I want something different.
#12664 of 13621 stealers dealers
Jul 22, 2004 (8:22 am)
This is suppose to be about the Impala board, but your right about all the others you mentioned good for you to lets us know!!! an educated consumer is better equipped to watch for the bad ones! and theres lots! thankyou!