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#11665 of 13621 Nissan Altima vs Chevrolet Impala
Mar 27, 2003 (4:28 pm)
Nicole, I speak with experience here, I had a 2002 Nissan Altima that I traded for the Impala and I feel the Impala is the better value. I'm sorry you've had trouble with your car and I understand some of your problems are first year specific and others are just unfortunate, sounds like you just got a bad car. This doesn't mean all of them are the same way. If you think the Impala interior is cheap looking, wait until you've seen the Altima's. I didn't notice the cost cutting and cheap materials on the initial test drive. It was only after I had the car and spent hours at the time on the road in it that I started scrutinizing the really horrible interior and all of them are that way. Not to mention, it has very poor sound insulation (meaning almost none) under ill fitting carpet. The fuel door release lever just pokes up through a hole that is crudely cut into the carpet, sunroofs are noisy, and again, they are all this way. At a stop while in gear, the 4 cylinder automatic models (and I've driven 3 different ones) have a vibration that resonates throughout the dashboard, steering column, brake pedal, floor pan. This vibration is worse than most "modern" 4 cylinders and that should not be in as you put it, the "best" that 2002 (and 2003) have to offer. 6 cylinder models are smooth in operation and accelerate like a little Lear jet, but price wise, I think a new Maxima is a better value and a much nicer car. 6 cylinder models also ride hard, as my back was hurting by the time I was through with my 1/2 day test drive.Check the Edmunds board for the new Nissan Altima, you will find a lot of praise for these cars as well as a lot of people with the same recurring problems. Never have I been so disappointed in a new car like I was with this one, although I was smitten with its style. I would definitely think before buying a new Altima.
Mar 27, 2003 (4:35 pm)
Anyone who can qualify for a credit card can get a GM card and get free earnings. If you buy a "loaded" car you are setting yourself up for a big hit in resale value in the early years. Anyway, the LS is well equipped without options so there's no need to pay a lot.
Mar 27, 2003 (5:06 pm)
Wow you traded a 2002 Altima for the Impala. Do you mind telling us what you paid for the Altima vs the Impala?
Mar 27, 2003 (5:10 pm)
you may be the only person on the planet to trade-in a 2002 altima for an impala.
Mar 27, 2003 (7:09 pm)
It is NOT just the Impala that costs less than it did three years ago. (Yes, I know that sticker prices have gone up, but average transaction costs have actually declined).
GM took the initiative to keep America rolling after September 11, 2001. GM took the lead with 0% financing, and largely gave the economy the spark it needed to keep going. Other companies matched their prices in one way or another.
The entire economy took a drastic hit that day. A hit we have yet to totally recover from. This is far from a political post, but you need to realise that it doesn't matter what car you bought at the time you bought that Impala or any other car before September 11, 2001, chances are good you can buy a comparable new car now for less than that car would have cost before that tragic day.
From Cadillac to Lincoln to Toyota to Jaguar, average transaction costs are lower. Trade in values are lower.
It is NOT just an Impala thing or even just a GM thing. And to think that it is is either misguided or very unfair.
Mar 27, 2003 (9:03 pm)
Hey, who says you can't buy an Impala LS for less than $18k? I bought my brand new 2000 Impala LS with sticker price of $24.5K for ONLY $15,400 out the door (including tax and license).
MSRP....$24.5K (leather, but no sunroof and spoiler)
GM Auto Show Rebate...$2000
My original GM card rebate...$3,700
After owning my IMpala for almost 25 months, I"m still loving my Impala! I think my Impala LS is now worth about $12K.
The recent GM promotion on SAAB 9-3 for only $299 a month caught my attention. Throw in GM Loyalty rebate, I put NOTHING DOWN! Hmm. Tempting.
Mar 27, 2003 (11:21 pm)
" If that is what Chevy is doing, I'll never do business with them again. It's like making us pay for the car when it first comes out, and now they are giving them away. What does that say right there? "
You bought a brand new car and you paid a premium for it. That's how it goes with every car. It was your choice you didn't have to buy it then. As cars get older, they get cheaper. That's how it works...
And, no I don't think you can get a fully loaded LS for under 18K, that's rediculous. No counting GM cards.. only rebates and dealer markdowns.
Your Sept. 11 point was right on the mark, johnclineii... very good.
#11672 of 13621 auto show rebate?
Mar 28, 2003 (6:12 am)
I am talking about what the average Joe off the steet gets in discounts. I chose not to have a GM card because I currently have a 4.25% card tied to the prime. I save far more in interest than I would on my next GM purchase.
My 2001 Impala deal was: 25.5K MSRP. Dealer cashback and rebates, Olds Loyalty bonus and early termination cash back brought my deal to $21,037. With $300 SC sales tax I got the car for
My dealer does everything for $98 over invoice.
A 2003 with identical options to mine is $27.6K.
You simply can not walk off the street and get a loaded Impala LS for 18K.
Mar 28, 2003 (6:22 am)
Sorry, I don't believe you. That's 22.4% off MSRP. Why would the dealer be so kind as to take off $5,500 on a new vehicle? Even if you got the GM discount you still would only have gotten at most 12% off the vehicle. Sorry, I just don't see it.
#11674 of 13621 How much oil in a 3.8 ?
Mar 28, 2003 (10:12 am)
I know, dumb question but I'm planning changing the oil tis weekend, so how many liters goes into the 3.8 ?