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Acura TL, Honda Accord, Sedan
#1122 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bug4]
Nov 03, 2007 (2:53 pm)
bug4, thanks for your thoughts. The new Accord looks good and bests or equals the TL in many areas, e.g. size and features. I am considering it, but I'm held back somewhat because of our long and very good relationship with Acura - 4 Legends, 1 3.5RL, 3 Integras; it's hard to let go, even for awhile. I agree that the 2008 TL - and RL - may not be worthwhile considering the likely model chamge next year.
Another thought is to buy a used TL and trade for the 2009 or 2010 TL later. Again, there may be a big drop in resale value due to the new Acura models and the new Accord as well. There is a big drop from the 2004 to 2003 used car values on KBB etc., reflecting the new TL series of 2004. Asking prices on used 2005 and 2006 TL's seem high now, but may fall a lot when the 2009's arrive.
Maybe by the time I figure it out, the new TL will be here and my 1999 RL will still be worth a fair number and won't have bankrupted me for repairs in the meantime.
#1123 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [jaybee85]
Nov 05, 2007 (7:45 am)
"The new Accord looks good and bests or equals the TL in many areas, e.g. size and features."
Size, definitely. Features? Which Accord features best the TL?
I agree with whomever said the Accord is getting a little large - it feels like a full size sedan inside, not a mid-size any more.
And I still can't get over the new accord's hideous dash layout. Note to Honda ergonomics gurus: If you're going to choose to put different size knobs on a radio console, the largest one whould always be volume.
#1124 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [wolveseatsheep]
Nov 05, 2007 (2:12 pm)
haha! Exactly right about the knobs on the dash, I actually grabbed the biggest knob, thinking it was the volume, and it totally didn't turn the volume up, the sales guy was like, Wrong knob, as different functions were coming up on the navi screen. I was like, Wow, okay, this is different! I can see their logic, because of the functions of the navi, and lack of touch screen. The whole dash, can be a bit overwhelming, I was lost when trying to figure everything out, I asked the sales guy, and he had NO clue on what he was doing, but yet, he treated me like the ditz! I think the interior looks great, classy! The EX, offers alot!
#1125 of 1159 used Accord vs used TL
Nov 05, 2007 (7:35 pm)
Edmunds TMV seems to indicate used 2003 TL's are actually a little cheaper than comparably equipped 2003 Accords. What's up with that? A lot of people drinking the Honda kool-aid, I guess. Not to say they're not worth it, by all accounts they're excellent vehicles. But I suspect many people do not cross shop Accord and TL, assuming that the Honda will be cheaper. The advertised prices for 2003 TL's in my area seem to be a couple thousand higher than TMV, I'll see if they're willing to negotiate. Will be searching the TL forums to research reliability and common issues to look out for. But, I'm pretty excited at the prospect of getting a premium car for less than Honda money! Even if something does go wrong, at least I'll be going to an Acura dealer for service, with some decent coffee and customer service.
#1126 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bvdj84]
Nov 05, 2007 (8:09 pm)
Since these cars all have steering wheel mounted controls now, the large volume knobs are not really necessary. I hardly ever use that knob now.
#1127 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [elroy5]
Nov 05, 2007 (8:32 pm)
Yeah, but I still wouldn't like it when my passenger reaches over to adjust the controls on the steering wheel while I'm trying to drive!
#1128 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bodble2]
Nov 05, 2007 (9:30 pm)
The only button that my passenger can touch on the dash is the passenger temp control button. As long as I am in the driver/pilot seat, I am the MASTER of the boat/rocket
#1129 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bodble2]
Nov 05, 2007 (9:38 pm)
Since the passenger is not driving, he/she should be able to find the volume knob on the center stack. There actually is one, right? The A/C control is the one I adjust the most (on the dash) while driving, so I would hope those are closest to the driver's side. Of course with auto climate control, those aren't adjusted very often either. Usually before I even put the car in gear.
#1130 of 1159 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [elroy5]
Nov 07, 2007 (9:41 am)
Well, I touch the radio controls a lot - especially with XM or Sirius or a CD loaded down with mp3 folders. While scrolling up and down through pre-sets on the wheel is helpful, it is limited. And the look and feel of that console on the Accord is just not friendly to me when it's time to reach over and go diretly to the song (on a cd) or channel (1 of 20 on XM or Sirius) I want in an instant.
I have decided that for me, a loaded Altima SL w/NAV is a much more likely comparison to the Acura TL than is the '08 Accord. In addition to my great dislike of the new Accord console, I love the Altima's keyless FOB with auto lock/unlock and push button start/stop (I'm sure the 09 TL will have one - can't imagine why Honda skipped it this year). The Altima is still smaller than the growing Accord (which is approaching full-size status imo!). And the Altima is a far better looking machine on the outside than the new Accord. I also prefer the NAV 3D view on the Altima to the 2D Honda map.
#1131 of 1159 What are the real differences - Accord & Acura TL?
Nov 25, 2007 (5:24 pm)
I'm considering either a fully loaded Accord w/Nav or a TL. I understand that they both share an Accord frame but what else do they share? Drivetrain? Suspension? What are the real differences between Accords and Acura TLs?
Looking for facts - not opinions.
Thanks - Joel