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Acura TL, Honda Accord, Sedan
#1120 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [jaybee85]
Nov 02, 2007 (11:41 am)
Jaybee85 - I think it might be a good time to try out the Accord. Depending on where you live and if the Accord forums are to be believed, there are some GREAT deals on the new 08 Accords right now (near or at invoice). The Accord forum prices seem to be believable since they are consistent with the current e-bay sales. Step into an EX-L V6 Accord for somewhere around $26k and drive it for a couple of years. Since it is the new model, it likely will hold its re-sale value better than a TL or RL model that is being replaced (trading in a 07 or 08 TL right after the new TL is released is likely not the best time to maximize your re-sale value).
#1121 of 1161 Re: Accord [mchalmers]
Nov 02, 2007 (7:29 pm)
Your dealer isn't going to start with a low price and try to negotiate up to a higher price! Do a bit of research, find out what the true market is for used TLs and go in and negotiate a fair price. Which will be lower than the initial ask. If not, on to the next dealer...
While waiting for the Evil Wife's Lexus to be serviced, I noted a used '05 TL on the Lexus lot. Base TL, auto. Just like mine, only over a year old (at that time) with ~16,000 miles. The asking price was higher than the MSRP in '05!!! I mentioned that bit of incongruity to a salesman and his reply, with a smile, was "Well, we can't start low and negotiate the price up..." Gotta appreciate a bit of honesty!
#1122 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bug4]
Nov 03, 2007 (1:53 pm)
bug4, thanks for your thoughts. The new Accord looks good and bests or equals the TL in many areas, e.g. size and features. I am considering it, but I'm held back somewhat because of our long and very good relationship with Acura - 4 Legends, 1 3.5RL, 3 Integras; it's hard to let go, even for awhile. I agree that the 2008 TL - and RL - may not be worthwhile considering the likely model chamge next year.
Another thought is to buy a used TL and trade for the 2009 or 2010 TL later. Again, there may be a big drop in resale value due to the new Acura models and the new Accord as well. There is a big drop from the 2004 to 2003 used car values on KBB etc., reflecting the new TL series of 2004. Asking prices on used 2005 and 2006 TL's seem high now, but may fall a lot when the 2009's arrive.
Maybe by the time I figure it out, the new TL will be here and my 1999 RL will still be worth a fair number and won't have bankrupted me for repairs in the meantime.
#1123 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [jaybee85]
Nov 05, 2007 (6:45 am)
"The new Accord looks good and bests or equals the TL in many areas, e.g. size and features."
Size, definitely. Features? Which Accord features best the TL?
I agree with whomever said the Accord is getting a little large - it feels like a full size sedan inside, not a mid-size any more.
And I still can't get over the new accord's hideous dash layout. Note to Honda ergonomics gurus: If you're going to choose to put different size knobs on a radio console, the largest one whould always be volume.
#1124 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [wolveseatsheep]
Nov 05, 2007 (1:12 pm)
haha! Exactly right about the knobs on the dash, I actually grabbed the biggest knob, thinking it was the volume, and it totally didn't turn the volume up, the sales guy was like, Wrong knob, as different functions were coming up on the navi screen. I was like, Wow, okay, this is different! I can see their logic, because of the functions of the navi, and lack of touch screen. The whole dash, can be a bit overwhelming, I was lost when trying to figure everything out, I asked the sales guy, and he had NO clue on what he was doing, but yet, he treated me like the ditz! I think the interior looks great, classy! The EX, offers alot!
#1125 of 1161 used Accord vs used TL
Nov 05, 2007 (6:35 pm)
Edmunds TMV seems to indicate used 2003 TL's are actually a little cheaper than comparably equipped 2003 Accords. What's up with that? A lot of people drinking the Honda kool-aid, I guess. Not to say they're not worth it, by all accounts they're excellent vehicles. But I suspect many people do not cross shop Accord and TL, assuming that the Honda will be cheaper. The advertised prices for 2003 TL's in my area seem to be a couple thousand higher than TMV, I'll see if they're willing to negotiate. Will be searching the TL forums to research reliability and common issues to look out for. But, I'm pretty excited at the prospect of getting a premium car for less than Honda money! Even if something does go wrong, at least I'll be going to an Acura dealer for service, with some decent coffee and customer service.
#1126 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bvdj84]
Nov 05, 2007 (7:09 pm)
Since these cars all have steering wheel mounted controls now, the large volume knobs are not really necessary. I hardly ever use that knob now.
#1127 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [elroy5]
Nov 05, 2007 (7:32 pm)
Yeah, but I still wouldn't like it when my passenger reaches over to adjust the controls on the steering wheel while I'm trying to drive!
#1128 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bodble2]
Nov 05, 2007 (8:30 pm)
The only button that my passenger can touch on the dash is the passenger temp control button. As long as I am in the driver/pilot seat, I am the MASTER of the boat/rocket
#1129 of 1161 Re: Accord or TL pending new SH-AWD TL [bodble2]
Nov 05, 2007 (8:38 pm)
Since the passenger is not driving, he/she should be able to find the volume knob on the center stack. There actually is one, right? The A/C control is the one I adjust the most (on the dash) while driving, so I would hope those are closest to the driver's side. Of course with auto climate control, those aren't adjusted very often either. Usually before I even put the car in gear.