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#4556 of 5876 Another helpful way to distinguish between 2001-2003 Auroras inside the car
Sep 13, 2003 (3:35 am)
Been lurking for awhile and thought that it was time that I checked in.
I have another interesting tidbit to share that I discovered about how to tell the 2001-2003 Auroras apart when your inside the car.
I noticed this on my 2003 Collector's Edition Aurora and other regular 2003 Auroras on the Olds dealer lot when I was buying my car. All 2001-2002 Auroras that have the BOSE CD/Cassette sound system had the BOSE moniker on the cassette tape door from the pictures and video clips that I have seen. All 2003 Auroras that have the BOSE CD/Cassette system, as I have, have the BOSE moniker now just under the digital clock and radio frequency display on the right lower side of the radio display face plate.
Does anyone know why Oldsmobile changed this location for the 2003 model year? My own guess is that the BOSE moniker could now be seen at all times and would not be hidden when the cassette player is being used. Also, it looks and matches the way they have been doing it for years on the Cadillacs with BOSE. Just thought that this way very interesting and another Aurora particular to add to the list.
I am still loving my Final 500. I finally got my Collector's Appreciation package in early August and found out that my car is #55 out of the 500. That is very cool! My plan is to try to keep this car forever and put no more than around 200 miles on it for its entire life. I want to keep it in collectible condition and status, as I hope that they will be very valuable 20+ years from now.
I currently have the car at my local GMC dealer (used to sell Oldsmobiles, but stopped selling them in 2001) for many minor flaws the car had from the factory to be fixed. The car has about 114 miles on it right now.
Let me know what you all think about this car having any chance of being a true collectible in the future and your suggestions how to properly store the car as such. I currently store it in a storage unit.
Sep 13, 2003 (5:16 am)
Just my thoughts here...
For one, that's cool about the Bose logo. I thought the tape door was a dumb place to put it. It isn't visible at all, even without a tape in (unless you are about 4' tall, or tend to rest your head on the center console).
I don't think that a Collector's Edition Aurora will really be a super valuable car 20 years from now. For example, look at the Collector's Edition Corvette from 1982. The last of the Stingrays, and one of the first Corvettes to use fuel injection since about 20 years prior. That's 21 years old, and while worth more than a regular 1982, they aren't particularly expensive. What they are though, is enjoyable and fun to drive. As is your Aurora. By only putting 200 miles on a car that already has 114, you are only cheating yourself out of the enjoyment of an incredible machine. The car will probably age better being driven than it would being parked.
Sure, don't drive it to the store, or keep it out of the rain if you want. Put some 3M film on the front to keep the paint perfect from chips if you want. Only drive it places you know you can park it from harm if you want. Only drive it to work on beautiful days when you don't have a lot of work to do and can enjoy it if you want.
But please, please, drive that thing. Drive it on winding backcountry roads. Drive it on scenic hilly highways. Take a two week vacation and drive it across the country. Drive it on a cool fall day with the windows down, colored leaves whipping above the sunroof. Drive it on a tree-lined road on a warm evening as the sun is just beginning to set. Crack that throttle open and hear that beautiful roar. Drive it around town so everyone can see what amazing cars Oldsmobile built throughout its lifetime. That's what it was made to do...
And take a lot of pictures along the way!
Just my two cents.
#4558 of 5876 rjs200240 on Bryan's Collectors Edition Aurora
Sep 13, 2003 (7:03 am)
Hey rjs, I could not have said it any better, drive the Aurora and enjoyed it.
Many of us are not that lucky to own or in reality don't have the money to spend on a Final 500 Aurora, but if you have one, drive it and enjoy the beautiful machine, those type of cars only come one in a life time, god forbid and some thing happens were you won't be able to drive for the rest of your life and then what, you never got a chance to feel the car out there.
Bryan, I'm happy for you and your Final 500 Aurora, number 55, did I mention that's my lucky number by the way.
Well have fun, and be safe.
#4559 of 5876 Was talking to a buddy @ GM today.....
Sep 15, 2003 (4:15 pm)
I was showing off my new wheels and we got to talking about the Northstar. He said that Caddie has a supercharged 4.6 on the way...didn't know what car it was intended for, but he said to expect well above 400 hp. Anyone hear about this yet?
BTW..he has a new 4.6 in his garage that he has for sale. I guess he taught a class for GM that had to do with the Northstar...well, they used the complete engine in the class for demonstration and just gave it to him when they were done(!!). He is trying to convince me to buy it so we can put it in the Aurora. I'll have to take some pictures of it sitting in his garage some time...quite a sight!
#4560 of 5876 Supercharged 4.6?
Sep 15, 2003 (6:03 pm)
I haven't heard of a Supercharged 4.6 liter Northstar, but the the new Caddy XLR (aka Cadillac Corvette) has a 320hp in a rear-wheel drive setup. (first production use of the Northstar powering the rear wheels if I'm not mistaken.)
Of course, there is the 2005 STS redesign coming up -- maybe that will have a supercharger.
#4561 of 5876 Stickking
Sep 15, 2003 (6:10 pm)
Could you please ask your friend IF the 4.6 will fit into the Aurora? there was a postng a long time ago where one guy asked the tech at a dealer about the switch. If memory serves, the tech showed him the bottom of the block on the 4.0 and told him that the 4.6 had a different bottom that would cause the engine to sit TOO FAR up in the cradle. In other words, you would not be able to close the hood of the Aurora if you put in the 4.6.
Any of you other "old timers" remember the posting I am referencing?
Sep 15, 2003 (6:40 pm)
Henri, you might can use the "Search This Discussion" feature on the page bar to look for that post. It's a cool new feature that with the right keywords should find exactly what you are looking for if it was here in this discussion.
Sep 15, 2003 (8:27 pm)
Henri...I'll have to ask him about that next time I'm over there...better yet, maybe I'll snap a few pics of his 95 STS up on the lift and the Aurora, it'd be an interesting experiment. I had asked him about all of the other things fitting (electrical, emissions and computer) and he was confident that it could be done. I don't know if he had thought about the actual physical difference though...
I'll also have to ask him if it is the 275hp or 300hp version of the engine. I should have been over there last summer with the camera...when he and my brother rebuilt his Northstar, that would have been fun to watch!
#4564 of 5876 Stickking and Pat
Sep 16, 2003 (7:12 am)
I am not sure if the posting was on this thread. There were two other Aurora threads before this one was created (aurora and Aurora 2). Remember, this thread was Aurora 3 until the name was changed to reflect the upgrade in the Edmunds software that allowed for longer threads. The Aurora discussion dates back to 1998.
The 4.6 sits higher under the hood then the 4.0. That is why if you park a caddie and an Aurora side by side the 4.6 looks bigger than the 4.0 (you are seeing more of the engine).
Sep 16, 2003 (7:55 am)
I think that the Aurora engine is a smaller bore version of the 4.6 and that the block is the same. However, the Aurora's powertrain (engine and transmission) may be packaged differently. Cadillac's have a radiator grill and so there may be more room under the hood. I do think that the radiator grill helps with cooling, I only saw my SLS's temperature gauge move slightly off center once this summer. The Aurora was always running a bit warm when the outside temperature was over 85.
By "packaged", I mean that the attachment points could be quite different, so putting a caddy engine in an Aurora may be more trouble than it's worth.