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Buick Regal, Sedan
#2407 of 3508 Seeking new car by junebug56
Oct 15, 2003 (8:00 am)
If you are looking also for excitement that the Toyota didn't give you, then get a GS...
There should be good buys on them as the Regal name goes away next year...And as they really haven't changed in the past couple years...The reliabilty of mine has been teriffic...Have had 3 Buicks so far, 2002GS now, but you can always get a bad one, just like the many Toyotas that go bad...Good long driver, do a lot of San Francisco to LA trips...
Just a thought...If you are looking at a 2004...Look around for a 2003 GS...Exact same car and you could really save...
#2408 of 3508 Seeking a new car...
Oct 15, 2003 (4:16 pm)
I have a fully loaded 2002 Regal LS with the 16" wheel GT suspension (black), and am extremely happy with this automobile. No problems with it at all, and only one recall. Jack44 had a good idea and I'll tell you why. My Regal listed for $29,000 new, and Kelly blue book selling to private party now is 15-16,000 dollars. Even with zero percent financing on a five year loan, you won't be able to sell it within that time without having to come up with pocket cash to pay off the loan. Don't get me wrong, I'd buy another one in a heartbeat, I would just buy one a year old and let someone else eat the massive depreciation. That's my opinion...hope it helps.
#2409 of 3508 mwdream...a couple of questions about window motors and then my ramblings
Oct 17, 2003 (8:51 am)
I am having trouble with 3 of my window motors and the switch contact pad (as I'd call it) for the driver's side window. What was the ave price you paid for motor replacement and was it done at a dealership or private mech. shop? It's not too far down my horizon so I'll have to shortchange everyone at Christmas and fix the windows
I've not been by in a while, but read all the threads arguing about Buick quality, etc. I have a 98 GS and it's not quite the lemon but it has "issues". The aforementioned window motors need to be replaced, the rack & pinion steering had to be replaced at 60k, it suffers from something called 'radial force variation' and is almost impossible to fit tires upon and will wiggle like Britney Spears on stage if you're not careful, the climate control display has failed twice, the oil pan gasket has had to be replaced, the valve covers are leaking oil (relatively small leak now but have to keep my eye on it) and the tranny is flaring as it is shifting into 3rd and 4th gear.
And, before anyone jumps on me for wondering if I lack in the "due diligence" dept, yes, I check the items I should check regularly and have it checked by a mechanic on a reg basis so I can take advantage of his eye for problems, in addition to what is/isn't done at the dealership where I bought the car.
The car represents qualities that I like...the size, built-in performance, the Buick name and ride, but even though CR gives it a much better than average to excellent rating, I cannot deny that the current and future liabilities side of things is fast overtaking the assets side. As a kid in my teens and 20's, I drove a 1984 LeSabre (not exactly your babe-mobile) and got 261,000 miles out of it before I got rid of it.
I really doubt that will be an issue with my Regal...unfortunately. It is a beautiful car with a ton of potential. There are those of you out there with great experiences to report and I am envious of you, trust me. It's not that all Regals are junk, but just that there isn't an overall guiding principle at work at companies like GM to assure build quality. No car is perfect but one can read the various threads on Edmunds and if your only yardsticks are # of complaints and their cost, US badged companies tend to lead the pack, unfortunately.
#2410 of 3508 Oil Pan Gasket
Oct 17, 2003 (10:34 am)
Bigunit67 I can also add the oil pan gasket to the growing list of problems my car has had. How much did it cost to have the gasket replaced?
#2411 of 3508 RE: bigunit67 & pinetta
Oct 20, 2003 (11:21 am)
I had the three power window motors that went on my 98 GS and the three that went out on my MOm's 98 GS done at the dealership under the extended warranty. If I remember right they were about $500 each on the bill but some of that could have been because they were getting to charge it off to the extended warranty. In case you didn't see my earlier post, I finally traded my GS for an 03 Accord EX-V6 leather and I really like it so far.
I had two pan gaskets and finally a new pan put on mine. I don't remember the cost exactly but it was pretty substantial. I think I shredded most of the bills when I traded the car but I'll check and see. If I don't have it my Mom still has her 98 GS and she has had two pan gaskets put on it so I can check with her on the cost. It was also done at the dealership on extended warranty so it might be a little higher than what you would pay.
#2412 of 3508 oil pan gasket fun - pinetted
Oct 20, 2003 (12:48 pm)
I got that replaced on my car when it was purchased. It was leaking when it had all of 19,000 miles on it (nice huh?). I don't know cost, but it took about 40 dollars worth of parts and 5 hours of shop labor, in the words of the service dept manager when he told me what they had to do. It's not as simple as just replacing the gasket. Since this is a "modern car", you have to remove a bunch of other stuff (including having the front end realigned) in order to do the job.
#2413 of 3508 Oil Pan Gasket
Oct 21, 2003 (10:40 am)
Kdawg79 and bigunit67 thanks for the replies. This car has been one big disappointment other than its performance. It has had problems in so many different areas its a joke. We live and learn.
#2414 of 3508 Oil pan gasket
Oct 22, 2003 (3:13 pm)
Had to have mine tightened at 900 miles but since then no problem. To date, 3 years and 49,000 miles the gasket leak, air bag in steering column and tire related issues but last few years a great car, the 3.8 L is a tank IMO and will easily go over 100,000 miles.
Oct 22, 2003 (4:37 pm)
The 3.8L probably has 200 K in it. A used car dealer lives two houses up and he talks about 200K 300K in them as used cars as beaters. My 93 had 155K on it and used less than .5 quart in 3000 miles. It was lower in power than it had been before. Probably timing chain stretching or worn. Would have been worth it to keep to see how long the thing would go. Transmission was perfect.
#2416 of 3508 Supercharger Oil
Oct 23, 2003 (2:03 pm)
I had the opportunity to visit my local Buick service center today (they were extremely helpful) and found out from a mechanic that the supercharger oil should be changed every 30K miles. This is NOT listed in the owners manual...they just suggest checking and adding as needed. Needless to say, I bought two bottles of supercharger oil for a total of $16 and a little squeeze-ball suction device from Autozone and in less than 10 minutes, the job was done. Warning: Used supercharger oil is the most foul smelling stuff in the world.
Anyway, I have a '98 GS with 79K miles and no problems whatsoever. The car has just been incredible. Would I buy another one? If I had the cash, I would buy five.