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Buick Regal, Sedan
Sep 18, 2002 (12:53 pm)
Read your posts & have to respond only from my personal experience. I have owned 4 new Ford products, 2 new GM's & one new Honda. Of the group, only the Honda has provided worry-free driving, been reliable & not a repair-shop regular, not subject to repeated mickey-mouse fit & finish problems & most of all, held it's resale value.
I still own the Honda & plan on keeping it for a while. My most recent purchase was a 2002 Regal LS.
Other than the car having no kind of rear leg room & no ability to hold a reasonable resale value, it is a good car.
I bought the car based on the Buick reputation of quality, the rebates & the fact that it had more standard features for the price than anything from Honda, Toyota & Nissan. I purchased an extended warranty & will try to do all the scheduled maintenance.
Thanks for posting here & making this a good forum.
Sep 18, 2002 (1:23 pm)
Buick says to do the following under extreme operating conditions:
Passenger Air Cleaner every 15K
Engine Air Cleaner every 30K
Oil change every 3K
Transmission fluid every 50K
Drive Belt checked every 60K
Coolant at 150K OR EVERY 5 YEARS
I have the original engine air cleaner in my LS at 30K miles and it's clean, meaning you can't knock any particles out of it when tapping lightly on the floor. If I drove in worse conditions it would be replaced more often.
I always follow the extreme service schedule regardless of what type of driving I do. I will make sure the service department signs off on the transmission fluid service at 50K. The Platinum spark plugs should last 100K.
#2080 of 3508 1998 GS problems
Sep 19, 2002 (12:07 pm)
I filed a complaint two months ago with Buick Customer Service about my problems with the DEXCOOL going south at less than 75,000 miles and costing me $400 worth of work to my cooling system. Last night I got an email from Buick offering me a 50% reimbursement contingent upon my providing to them proof of car ownership, the work order, proof of payment of the work order costs and a short note explaining my problem and why I am requesting reimbursement. I took the offer.
I am still unhappy and will not buy GM again. Especially since Buick has jerked me around for two months while they claimed they were investigating my claim and contacting the dealership where the work was done and they still want me to provide all this documentation. I think they were waiting for their bean counters and computer people to tell them if it was cheaper to offer everyone who complains 50% of their costs or face a class action law suit.
My next car will be my first Japanese car. Probably an Infiniti or Lexus even if it means I buy used.
#2081 of 3508 resale value/trade-n value
Sep 24, 2002 (5:03 am)
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I just wanted to see if I am missing something here.
Just for a laugh, I looked up the trade-in value on my 2002 Regal LS. 7,000 miles on it, purchased in April 2002. The invoice price was $22,124 & I took advantage of $3,250 in rebates. Subtracting the rebates, I get a real price of $18,874. The Kelley Blue Book trade-in value now shows $$13,870.
Am I missing something here, or did my new car just depreciate over 25% in 5 months ?
The private party sale value is a whopping $16,825.
I realize that you lose SOME value when you dive off the lot, but this much just seems TOO HIGH !
#2082 of 3508 Re: Resale value
Sep 24, 2002 (10:49 am)
I checked with Kelley Blue Book and the private sale on the vehicle is $16,975 with the mileage you gave. I could be wrong, but once the 2003 models come out, they almost consider this car a year old even though you just bought it back in April. I am probably wrong here, but that is my thinking anyway. The other reason why cars are not holding value is because of all the rebates the GM is giving away and plus the fact that most people don't hang onto their vehicles as long as they once did. If someone hangs on to their car for more than 3-4 years, they are lucky. Before people would drive them until the wheels fall off and they would hold their value longer.
My parents would be a good example, they bought a 79' Regal used, the little two door job, and when they turned it in 1983 for a 4 door Le Sabre, they actually got back more than what they paid for it. That has not happened since then. It is frustrating. That is why I bought my 2001 GS used in 2001. When dealers where charging $26,000 invoice for a GS. I found mine at CarMax with like 12,000 miles on it for $20,598. Sometimes that is the better way to go. Take the hit and drive the wheels off of it!!!
#2083 of 3508 There are cars that hold their value...
Sep 24, 2002 (12:28 pm)
...like Avalons 'n' Lexi [Lexuses?] 'n' Beemers, etc. BUT!!!..They list for more and SELL NEW for more than Regals. ANNND...they're not necessarily built much better. Soooo....drive your Buick into the ground [may it take MANY miles] and enjoy a different kind of bargain car. For the record, my '02 LS Abboud, which stickered for $30K, tax included, will be mine in 3 years for $22K, tax included. By then, of course, it'll be worth about $8K, tops. And, unless it goes 'lemony', it'll still be a superior automobile.
#2084 of 3508 GM window motors
Sep 25, 2002 (12:34 pm)
I've replaced 2 window motors under 40k miles on my 98 Regal GS. And currently have a 3rd sticking or broke. I don't know what the deal is... I guess just plain old cheap parts. My wife just had both her window motors replaced on 97 GMC Safari with 55k miles. Lucky ext. warranty covered the $300 each job. Never buy a used GM car without extended warranty!
#2085 of 3508 Coolant level in the overflow tank
Sep 26, 2002 (7:02 am)
Just had the oil changed at a Valvoline instant oil change place. I have 7800 miles on a 2002 Regal LS.
They added what seemed to be a gallon of the orange coolant to the overflow tank. They said the level was well below where it should be.
I am wondering if they are wrong, if the dealer did not top off that tank when I took delivery, or if the car is using coolant.
Obviously I will keep an eye on this from now on...just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience ?
Sep 26, 2002 (8:52 am)
My 2000 was also low from the factory but I did not need a gallon to bring it up to snuff. Maybe a quart. Has not changed since then. I think the factory is saving a few pennies per car on the coolant and the tank is also shaped very weird.
#2087 of 3508 Elmoblatch1...
Sep 28, 2002 (5:02 pm)
I don't think it was a good idea to have them top off your reserve coolant tank. If the tank was low, I would have driven to a Buick dealer and have them top it off (if needed).
I wouldn't take my car to a Jiffy-Lube, Econo-lube or similar shop UNLESS I watched every move they make (and would only allow them to perform a LOF - no fluids to be checked or topped off).