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#2058 of 3508 Buick Prices: Bushwack, verdi942, Jack44
Sep 08, 2002 (6:18 pm)
Buick Prices: Bushwack, verdi942, Jack44
Guys- Just my .02, below is what I posted a couple weeks ago re: my 2002 Buick Regal GS. Be sure to scroll to the past paragraph for an update:
Suggestion: If you're in the market for a Buick Regal GS, look for a 2002 or 2001 with a few miles on it. I got a 2002 Buick GS (no sunroof, no heated seats, no chrome rims - these are the only options (other than the Joseph Abboud package, which I don't like anyway) with 4400 miles on it. I paid $18,410, the original sticker was $27,500 and some change.
Here's what else I test drove: 99 Oldsmobile Aurora ($14.5K), 2001 loaded Grand Prix GTP ($19.5K), 03 Tiburon ($19.5K, don't ask, I tried to recapture my youth but my 6'3" frame said 'no way'). The Buick was hands-down the best bang for the buck. I really wanted the Aurora but there was no warranty left, can't take the risk. Beautiful car though.
Anyway, Fans of GM will note that the Pontiac Grand Prix has the same platform as the Regal. The ONLY advantage the Prix has over the Buick is styling. I test drove 3 GTPs, all less with 33K miles and there were more rattles and hums and cheap pieces of misaligned plastic than you could count. I REALLY wanted a Prix, but they're just not put together well. Plus their resale value is higher (more demand) so a nice used GTP will set you back more than a same mileage Buick Regal GS
The interior materials (and, I suspect, exterior) of the Regal rivals, in my opinion, Japanese cars. My friend is paying $450/mo for a 2001 Nissan Maxima SE loaded and let me tell you, other than the sunroof and the heated seats, I really don't like his car over mine. The Buick has a more comfortable ride and feels richer to me, and I believe it is faster (we both have automatic transmissions), but to each his own. Traction control and ABS work great. Acceleration is neck-snapping, observers/passengers will be surprised w/ the car's power. You can end up doing 80 without even realizing it.
The only quibbles I have with the car are minor. The standard wheels (not the chrome ones) look a little less masculine than the rest of the car. The rear view mirror could be larger. The fold-away driver's side mirror doesn't fold in all the way. Climate control is a little unintuitive. The multi-control stalk (which operates blinker, hi-beams, cruise control, wipers, etc.) can be a little confusing. Car is a little thirsty, expect 18mpg around town and 27 or so on highway. Driver's side window, when rolled partially down, rattles over bumps (this is the ONLY rattle I can detect in the car). Dark grey lea. interior without the sunroof can appear a little 'stark'. Factory tires (Eagle LS) suck, my next set will be Yokohamas, ranked #3 in consumer reports and $52/ea! (I forget the model name, sorry folks).
I've had the car for about 3 weeks now, have put on about 1600 miles, and I love it! I really don't have any major complaints. I guess the only one is it doesn't turn as much heads as I would like (no sunroof, no chrome wheels, etc. - let alone the Buick Regal isn't a head turner, even if it is loaded). ......To 'preserve' my car I am considering buying Zaino Bros. Wax, which I've researched and have been reading very good reviews about (see www.zainobros.com); as well as the 3M Scotch Guard pre-cut invisible "shield" for the high-wear areas on the car (I think the site is invinka-shield.com or something like that. Anyone who wants to know more info can post a reply here and I'll post it later).
Overall, I do love the car, esp. for the price I paid. Good luck!
Sep 08, 2002 (7:42 pm)
Both cars have 6.8 0-60mph times, very quick. Hands down, the GTP is the better looker and has a HIGHER Resale value %, also true cost to own and maintenance & Repairs are cheaper over a 5yr period for a GTP then a S/C Regal. Check Edmunds calculator. Also note a NEW loaded regal is about $2k more then a GTP to start out with! I've driven both. The GTP seems to have better handling and a sportier ride, feeling wise. Yes the interior is on the cheap side on the GTP, but it does hold up better then you think. I had a '97 GP with 52k miles that I bought new, just traded in on a new 2002 GTP. 5yrs later, all my switch gear still worked and looked like new. My plastic was NOT misaligned. Could have been the previous owners on the 3 you drove? Thats why I don't buy used cars, you never know how they were taken care of. The GTP was loaded at $28,240 msrp. Got it for a tad over $22,000, including the $3k rebate. 2002 is the last year of the 2 door GTP. Dealers were trying to unload them. Esp since 2 doors don't sell as well. Good luck, the Regal with the blown 3800 does fly. Remember its faster then an automatic Maxima or automatic Altima, 0-60 and 1/4 mile and gets better highway mileage then both. 28 vs 26. A manual shift max or alt is another story, they are faster.
#2061 of 3508 Boy, Malik,...
Sep 09, 2002 (9:44 am)
You got a great deal on a lightly used GS. I got the Abboud pkg, not because I really wanted it but because it had the GT springs and Monsoon radio I DID want. It sounds nuts, but a basic LS with those options would have been MORE money! And there's a sunroof and leather I can take or leave. Now, if I can only top 30mpg...
#2062 of 3508 Delayed shifts
Sep 09, 2002 (6:22 pm)
I have a 2001 Regal LS with 52,000 miles. Over the last couple of weeks, I have noticed a delayed shift problem with the automatic transmission. I will be going about 45 mph in 3rd gear, and traffic will slow down in front of me for instance if someone slows to make a left turn. The person slows to maybe 25, so I slow also. He makes his left, and I have open road in front of me. I push the throttle about 3/4's of the way to the floor, and the car immediately downshifts to second. All of a sudden, the car shifts to neutral, revs to 5,500 RPM, and then shifts to first. I changed the trans fluid to Mobil 1 synthetic ATF at 36,000 miles and replaced the trans filter at the same time. Alldata has two technical service bulletins. I am out of warranty. Any ideas?
#2063 of 3508 Bushwack..Re: Hondas, etc...
Sep 10, 2002 (1:09 pm)
The day I walk into a Honda or Toyota showroom...I told my wife to take me out behind the barn and shoot me...
Sep 11, 2002 (9:19 am)
Ya know...there are plenty of people in the Edmund's forums that would be happy to supply the ammo
Sep 11, 2002 (2:17 pm)
You may need the midas touch to fix that...
#2066 of 3508 Jack44: Delayed Shifts
Sep 12, 2002 (2:39 am)
I took the car to my GM dealer yesterday, and the service manager roadtested the car with me. He was unable to duplicate the delayed shift. Since I did not get the check engine light to come on, he does not believe it is an electrical fault. He suggested that he disconnect the transmission lines and do a "power flush" to remove any debris from the transmission. He said there is no need to change the transmission filter again since I just changed it at 36,000 miles. Does this make sense?
Sep 12, 2002 (5:09 am)
The flush is fine but I would change the filter after the flush. Yes, a pain and more fluid but the flush is to remove debris and if caught in the filter you are plugging up a good filter and it should be replaced after the flush to do it properly IMHO.