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#1724 of 3508 I am looking to buy a 2002 Buick Regal
Apr 07, 2002 (6:41 pm)
I saw it today & will talk to the dealer/take for test drive tomorrow. I am looking at the base model...it's a dealer demo...4,900 miles. My questions to any who care to answer:
1. What kind of discount can I expect on a demo car with 4,900 miles.
2. Is it reasonable to expect that discount off the "invoice price" ? In my mind, I start with invoice and work up on a new car purchase ( down in this case ).
3. How is this car to drive....what do folks like & dislike about the car ?
4. I am thinking about getting an extended warranty to take the 3yr/36k manufacturers warranty to 5yr/60k miles.
Thanks in advance....I will check back tonight & tomorrow.
#1725 of 3508 My experience
Apr 08, 2002 (4:20 am)
I have a 2000 GSE with the SC. Now have 20,000 miles on it, had it 13 months.
Yes, a quiet car, the tires, not the best in the world.
No real squeaks or rattle although I am not sure about the front glove compartment one that many seem to have, Not sure if I have that at times. No water leaks of any kind.
Leather seats are fine, long distance is okay ( I drive a lot of long trips) , leather though is cold in the winter and hot in the summer, I may actually prefer cloth.
This is a highway car, suspension is not the greatest for curvy roads, it handles ave to poor on corners at higher speeds, may be partly the tires too. Great highway car. Mileage is 19-22 around town but on the highway I get 30-31. The overdrive is great, at 70 mph the tach is at 2000 rpms, pretty low. Great engine, smooth power. Uses about 1/2 quart of oil in 7,500 miles.
It does not have the built in auto garage door opener button which most new cars have today. It does not have a drain plug for the transmission pan, GMs just don't it seems. Oil filter a little difficult to get to but at least it is vertical. Battery will be tough to change, support rod has to be removed to replace battery.
I don't like the way the wipers are designed. You cannot get them up to clean the windshield when they are in the down position due to the hood being in the way. Unless they changed that it is a pain. Passenger air filter really easy to change, engine air filter easy but had difficulty opening canister/box. Mechanical issues, well, at 750 miles they had to re-torque the oil pan bolts as it was leaking oil badly, all the bolts were loose according to the dealer. at 19,000 brakes were chattering, well, had been for a while, finally got it in they replaced all 4 rotors
(why, in lieu of turning I don't know) but solved the problem. lug nut came off one week later though.
This is a low maint vehicle basically, 50,000 severe trans fluid change, 100,000 normal. Coolant is 5 years or 150,000. Oil change indicator light seems to work pretty well. Basically a proven engine, timing chain not a belt.. Quality I would say is pretty good.
Apr 08, 2002 (4:58 am)
Thanks for the post....I see from the prior 100 or so posts that I read, that the glove box rattle and water on the front passenger floor are the 2 consistant problems with this car. Funny, I have a 1999 Buick Century that has the same 2 issues.
I am getting ready to turn in that lease and buy a new Buick. I was not going to get another Buick after the problems that I have had with this car, however, the rebates ( $2002 and $750 ) plus the GM dollars that I have saved up make it worth a second look. If I can get the dealer to come down somewhere near the invoice price, I should get a good deal. My main worries are reliability over 6-7 years and resale/trade-in value.
#1727 of 3508 Traction Control
Apr 09, 2002 (6:45 am)
On drive pavement with the traction control enabled, my '00 GS will burn rubber for a couple seconds before traction control kicks in.
Reliability: With 20K on my car, I have had theEGR replaced under warranty (after just a few hundred miles on the odometer). I have had the dreaded glove box rattle (not that bad but a slight annoyance) and for whatever odd reason, I have had the interior B pillar plastic molding warp twice! I have the part on order and the third piece will be installed next week (takes a minute installation). Mechanically, the 3800 is a proven engine as is the transmission. As for quality, I'd give the car a 8 out of 10. Calculate the purchase price (value) into the equation, and the car is a perfect 10. Its tough to find another car that gives so much for (relatively) so little.
Now, if the car only had a GPS system...
#1728 of 3508 Tale of TWO Cars
Apr 09, 2002 (8:47 am)
Finally, the day came to ditch the "bad"year LS tires on my GS. After looking at Dunlop I decided on the Michelin XGTH4 Pilots.
I now drive a TOTALLY different car.....I now have more control over torque steer on launches. I no longer hear the tires howling for help on a fast turn. Handling and ride have become so much more crisp and tight. GREAT change!
Apr 09, 2002 (9:33 pm)
Pacinpelo... Can you tell the difference in the cars handling because they are MICHELINS or could it be because anything would be an improvement from near-treadless tires.
I wonder if you'd feel the same if you replaced the GoodYear's with NEW GoodYears!
I'm not trying to instigate anything. Just that fresh tires from practically any manufacturer (even Pep Boys!) would show great handling improvement over the worn out tires they replace.
#1730 of 3508 Just made the down payment on a 2002 Regal LS
Apr 10, 2002 (5:00 am)
I noticed the tires are Firestone FR680's.
The dealer gave me $100 over invoice, plus rebates of
another $3,252. The car was sold once I took it for a test drive. I STILL cannot believe how much standard equipment comes on the car.
I see in the Wall Street Journal today that some car makers are increasing the sticker price with various bumped up fees ( prep, options, etc ) and THEN coming out with a rebate.....circle jerk stuff, but this cannot be anything new.
I also purchased the GM 5yr/60k bumper to bumper warranty.
On the glove box rattle...I have a 1999 Buick Century with the same problem....funny how these "defects" run through the car lines.
Apr 10, 2002 (6:09 am)
You are of course right, new tires would be a difference.
However as I remember the BRAND new Goodyears on my Regal, I noticed from day one that those tires simply just did not really have it (based on my driving habit), just the way the car behaved with them left something to be desired and I know fellow owners have shared same concerns.
I noticed this also on my previous Goodyear tire cars 94 Grand Prix and 89 Regal GS each time I went with another brand the car and a step above the stock tires the car was better off.
Apr 10, 2002 (6:34 am)
I surfed the Michelin website looking at all the tire options. Seems to be a tougher decision than the actual car purchase (LS with Touring Suspension) I have no idea what to buy when the Goodyears come off? Tried the tire selector feature, but wasn't sure which questions really applied to my wants/needs. I like the specs of the XGTH4. My question is what's a good compromise between performance and quiet ride (those being my top 2 priorities)? I lean more towards quiet ride than performance. Treadwear is also important to me... I like the idea of 80k warranty.