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#1 of 3453 Hello and... by L8_Apex Nov 24, 2000 (5:19 pm)
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#2 of 3453 To all- by fastdriver Nov 24, 2000 (6:36 pm)
I have been following this topic for a while now. I have seen the postings about the dash rattle and the dim AC controls. I am probably going to get a 2001 GS soon and was wondering if these problems are showing up on the 2001 models also. I have a 1999 Chrysler 300M, early model, that I got when the lease was up on my 1996 Buick Riviera because GM decided to drop the Riv for 1999. Am I EVER sorry that I didn't just get a Regal THEN! I fell for the looks of the 300M and have been sorry ever since! It's the WORST car that I have EVER owned! The problems that Chrysler is having right now do NOT surprise me at all. They can't keep skimping on quality parts year after year and poor dealer service and expect their sales to continue to climb. It has caught up to them now just like in the 80's! Firing people left and right will NOT solve the problem! I saw this coming a LONG time ago. Thanks for any info that you may have. fastdriver http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/ Replies to this message: dashaun (Jun 12, 2006 9:12 am)
#3 of 3453 fastdriver by etharmon Nov 24, 2000 (9:29 pm)
Just curious, what kind of problems has your 300M had? I do like the look of the car and while I am skeptical about Chrysler quality, I would almost consider giving one a look. Guess I'll stick with GM for now. I agree with you that it was a disappointment to see Buick drop the Riv. And now they are coming out with an SUV. Personally, I'd like to see a new Riv as well as a modern day two seater(a'la Reatta) done right.
#4 of 3453 Hey Fastdriver... by peufan Nov 25, 2000 (12:42 am)
If you're going to buy or lease a 2000 Regal by (before) 12/31, and don't live in Colorado, Idaho, Hawaii, Washington or Wyoming, I have a coupon Buick sent me (to give a friend) for $500.00 off your purchase. It can be combined with GM dollars and current rebates, but not GM employee discounts. Let me know if you want it.
#5 of 3453 Hey Fastdriver two... by peufan Nov 25, 2000 (12:54 am)
Ok, I'll admit it' I didn't read all the details on your web page about the 300M, but I got the gist. I had a 98 Intrigue which I bought new that could rival the 300M, though I think I received slightly better treatment from the GM dealer. No known lying at least. I may have missed it if you did, but didn't see where you persued Lemon law about that "jewel".
#6 of 3453 Owner thoughts by pgorges Nov 25, 2000 (3:15 am)
I own a 2000 GSE with about 2,400 miles and have not noticed any problems so far. I really like the car. Buick does a poor job marketing this car. With Tiger Woods as their spokesman, they should try to shake the elderly image associated with Buick. I would never have considered buying a Regal if I hadn't stumbled upon one while looking at other brands. It could use a little more styling, but the performance and comfort are excellent when you consider the price of the car.
#7 of 3453 peufan & pgorges- by fastdriver Nov 25, 2000 (5:23 am)
peufan- Thanks for the offer, but I would be getting a 2001 model. No, I did not pursue the Lemon Law. Looking back, I probably should have. pgorges- Buick does a POOR job of marketing ALL of their vehicles. I don't get it. Of course advertising is no guarantee that the car will sell, but when was the last time you saw a Buick commercial on TV- aside from the current Century lease? When was the last time you saw a Toyota or Chrysler commercial- probably 5 minutes ago. LOL... They did the same thing with the Riviera. That was a great car- roomy, peppy, loaded with options etc. If you were looking for a luxury, full-size, 2-door, peppy GM car, what did they have to offer a few years ago? Riviera OR Eldorado? WHY spend thousands more for the Eldo when the Riv was just as nice! Have you ever read http://www.autoextremist.com? He says it all the time- GM has MISSED the boat. They need a wake-up call like Chrysler is getting now! I write to Buick all the time and tell them to get with the times and give us a "head-turning" car like the Chrysler models! That's about all Chrysler has going for it- looks! Forget everything else. Their quality sucks and their "5-STAR" dealers are a JOKE, especially in the Northeast! I'm waiting for the Buick LaCrosse showcar to be produced. Supposedly it's coming in 2004 to replace the Park Avenue. Now that's a head-turner! This would be a good time to steal some Chrysler designers since none of their concept cars are going to be produced now that the German headhunters have arrived in Auburn Hills! I've told Buick that too! ) Supposedly they have opened a file with my comments and have passed them along to the proper departments. How else do they know what WE want or are looking for? You have to write to them and let them know. fastdriver
#8 of 3453 pgorges by etharmon Nov 25, 2000 (5:25 am)
I agree with you on the marketing. I'm 26 and while the "Buick image" doesn't bother me, I know that most people my age would not even consider a Buick. Thats okay, let them have their little 4 cylinder Hondas and Toyotas. Next time you seem them at a stoplight, let them see what that "elderly" supercharged 3800 V6 will do:) Glad your liking your car. I have the Regal's cousin(Olds Intrigue) and I like it alot. I do like the Intrigue's styling better and the reason I went with the Intrigue was because it offered more features at a base level which was all I could afford at the time. Had I been shopping higher end models, the Regal GS would have really been a serious consideration and I still may consider one next year when the lease on my 98 Intrigue is up.
#9 of 3453 fastdriver by etharmon Nov 25, 2000 (5:35 am)
Tell Buick that the Park Avenue needs the 4.0 liter DOHC V8. I agree with you on the Riv. I loved them. The Eldorado is a nice car too, but it is much more expensive than the Riv was and is actually older in terms of design. And after this year, it is gone. Then the only choice for a decent sized coupe from GM is the Monte Carlo or the Grand Prix. At least they should bring back the Regal coupe. I could settle for a 2 door Regal GS. GM has a habit of not promoting good cars. Case in point; I used to have an 89 Oldsmobile Toronado. Those were very nice cars and way ahead of their time. OLds sold probably 10,000 a year if that and dropped it in 92. Now, what cars did you see Olds advertising all the time? Those POS Cutlass Cieras and Achievas. No wonder Olds had such a bad image to shake. They never promoted their good stuff like the Toronado, the Ninety-Eight Touring Sedan, or the Cutlass Supreme I-series. Buick did a litte better, but the Reatta never was promoted to it's full potential. And when was the last time you saw a commercial for an F-body?
#10 of 3453 etharmon- by fastdriver Nov 25, 2000 (5:48 am)
etharmon- Is the supercharged engine available on any of the Oldsmobile models? If they are, I have never heard or read anything about this. Like you, the Buick image doesn't bother me in the least either! I buy what I like and what I can afford. The Regal needs something to differentiate it from the Century. You're right! The Olds 98 was a great car too! I had a 1980 Olds Toronado. Nice car too. Only problem with that car was the DIESEL engine!! You can see pics of all my past cars on my website listed above. The new Olds Aurora has a great rear-end, but what's with the front with those big, ugly, fish-mouth openings? They ruined that car too! I would have considered one of those with the V-8, but not with that front-end. There aren't many cars these days with that "WOW" feature- at least not for me. fastdriver

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