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#61 of 1997 ABS in the snow by hkoenen2 Dec 12, 2000 (12:53 pm)
diana13 If you weren't sliding how do you know the ABS is great? ABS only comes into play when you are sliding and one wheel stops spinning on the snow,ice,oil.. etc. I seem to recall reading a report a while back saying that ABS brakes actually cause more accidents because people drive harder and think they won't slide during braking because of the ABS. This causes them to drive more aggressively and faster than conditions allow and more accidents are the results. The conclusion of the article was you should drive your car like it did not have ABS and if you hear the ABS come on you are to fast for conditions.
#62 of 1997 hkoenen2 (ABS) by hotx3 Dec 12, 2000 (1:57 pm)
We share the road with people who do crazy things when they get behind someone driving slow enough that they'll never skid. Give me the ABS, traction control, whatever else helps control the car. People learn what's safe - hopefully before they hit something. In snow - I was too lazy to shovel the drive this AM. My car plowed through 10+ inches of light fluffy stuff in our driveway on the Firestones (that some tire buff say are flaky in snow). Don't try this without a shovel in the trunk! No problem at all with the rest of the drive on icy streets. '00 LX w/ ABS
#64 of 1997 . by rea98d Dec 12, 2000 (6:27 pm)
We could look at Jaguar the same way, and see UK all the way down the line, that doesn't mean Ford doesn't own them. Also, several of Mazda's vehicles (B-Series and Navajo come to mind) are Ford designed. Finally, you said yourself the new 626 may have a Ford engine in it. And remember, part of the profits from every Protoge sold goes to Detroit Yes, Mazdas are Fords. So what's wrong with a ford? Well, I had a Grand Marquis that lasted 22 years and nearly 130,000 miles, and I have now a 1995 Ford T-Bird with over 166,000 miles, and still going strong. I know from expereince they are good cars. Do you think Ford and Mazda would each want to use the others parts if they weren't good? (How many companies do you see killing themselves to get Chrysler Transmissions?) I think you just don't like Fords, and don't like me cause I do like them. As long as they keep treating me this good, I'll keep buying ford products. BTW, about the whole nameless thing, that's just a moot point, since I could have put any name I wanted to in my user profile. I've been on edmunds for several years under the handle rea98d, and quite a few people know me here. I'm not an anonymous fly-by-night flaming everyone. Finally, if I did post my name, you'd have no way of knowing if I was telling the truth, but if it makes you feel better, my name's Rob.
#65 of 1997 Its all about name by xyzipp2 Dec 13, 2000 (1:48 am)
Now we have gone off the deep end. Mazda isn't a Ford...yet Ford owns them. Because Mazda is the all powerful and all knowing car manufacturer that out sells all other vehicle manufacturer's, Ford has no influence in any decisions. That's right, Ford owns Mazda so it can make no decisions. You know, I think I am going to buy a company and just let them tell me what to do. Should make me billions of dollars. Wait...I am being told that Mazda isn't the highest selling vehicle manufacturer...could that possibly be true????? I wonder why Mazda was unable to hold its own head above water if it was the benchmark for all other automobiles. Stay consistent. If you are going to judge the Focus based on Ford's merits, its time to start judging the Mazda by those same standards. By the way, I believe it says a lot that a name is more important than the substance. Who friggin cares if somebody wants to maintain a bit of anonymity. But, as we have seen, the name is more important than all else and it trumps all common sense.
#66 of 1997 Let me start by stating... by gladichecked Dec 13, 2000 (3:24 am)
As a Protege owner, I am not here to fuel any flames, only to put my .02 in here. I think what Protegextwo was stating about the Protege (irregardless of his other opinions) is that Mazda is still building the Protege separate and without collaboration with Ford. The 626 engine is built by Mazda (my dealer told me the 2001 Protege will have a 2.0L engine designed and built my Mazda). I have read in a couple magazines that the Protege is planned to move to the Focus platform in 2004 (have also read 2002). xyzipp...I do agree with your assessment of how depreciation works. I can't honestly say I agree with some of your other views, but I believe we can have differences of opinion and still be civil to one another. I come to these forums to learn from other's experiences, and occasionally debate the issues. That doesn't mean I'm right or wrong...or you're right or wrong. I see to many posters in Edmunds that insist they are right, and if they can't convince others to "see the light" they resort to personal insults. I think it's too early to judge the Focus either way...like you said, long term resale (as well as reliability) takes longer than one year to ascertain. I will say this...the vast majority of posters that post on this topic seem to be happy with their Foci despite the 1st year bugs.
#68 of 1997 Yawn... by rea98d Dec 13, 2000 (1:37 pm)
Is it just me, or is this getting old? Ok, so if Ford is owner (part owner, or whatever the heck you want to call it!) of Mazda, how is the Protoge competing with the Focus? Buy a Protoge, buy a Focus, Ford Corporate doesn't care, they still get your money. It's like saying a Contour or Escort competes with a Focus. Finally, Ford is either donating parts to or using parts from every company they are owner (part owner, whatever! Doesn't matter) in, Mazda included.
#69 of 1997 FYI - Pillar Trim Recall by wmitech Dec 13, 2000 (4:10 pm)
I just had my ZTS in for the 6k+ oil change. The service mgr said there was a A pillar trim recall that they took care of during the oil change service. The next day my wife was in the front passenger seat and tried to use the seat belt-it was seized up. I took it back to the dealer to tell them they did something to it during the recall work. They tried to fix it, but now say they will have to order a entire seat belt assembly. Who knows when that will come in.
#70 of 1997 Ford or Mazda by gbush1 Dec 13, 2000 (4:54 pm)
Seems to be a touchy are don't it? Ford and Mazda seem to compete more stateside then here in Europe. The all new Mondeo(Contours in U.S.) has all new Duratec engines in it. No zetec. The 6cy is still the U.S. engine. However all the 4's that are offered in the Mondeo are from Mazda design. Zetec came from the Ford German house. So it seems that Ford feels the best 4cy they have came from one of their partners. It would be nice to see them share some good stuff in the states. There is some law in Japan I read about that does don't allow foreign auto companies to have more then the 33% stake in a Japanesse auto company. I will have to dig around more to see what limitations on influence this may have. Does anyone know?

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