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#7179 of 7297 Do it yourself brake job - C240 sedan
Aug 31, 2005 (6:10 am)
Greetings -- Just joined the forum. I have a 2002 C240 sedan. It will need a brake job soon -- 69,000 miles (all interstate) on original brakes (I drive easy). Am experienced restorer of vintage German and British cars, and am considering doing it myself, especially since local dealer quoted me $650 for front pads and rotors, and another $560 for rear pads and rotors. Before I tackle this job, are there any unique things I should be aware of, or are Benz's much the same as Porsches and other Euro brands? I have found factory replacement front pad sets as little as $70, and rears for $55, with front rotors going for $50 each and rears for $35 each. At those prices, paying a dealer over $1,200 seems almost criminal. Thanks in advance.
#7180 of 7297 C-230 vs. Acura TL
Aug 31, 2005 (5:46 pm)
I'm about to custom order a 2006 C-230--my other serious consideration is the Acura TL (I'm a BMW survivor of TWO painful long-term disasters) I'm looking for compelling info. to convince me one way, or the other, other than "It's a Mercedes". Pricing is nearly the same on my quite equipped 230--could go with the C-350, but seems silly to buy a Mercedes without all the "bells and whistles" which would put the car out of my budget ....thoughts anyone?
#7181 of 7297 Re: C-230 vs. Acura TL [magrezza]
Aug 31, 2005 (7:56 pm)
I'm in the same boat as you, and have decided on the Mercedes. It's just a quality car. It's very safe, tighter turning radius, easier small size, built for the autobohn in handling and comfort, classy,and fun to drive with good resale. PLUS, the gas mileage is better.The 230 is definalty the better bang for the buck. You can always buy extended warranty within a year after you buy it.
I have only driven an rsx-s and was highly impressed, but it doesnt come with head side air bags, big no no. Im sure the TL is nice but the turning radius and bigger size doesnt appeal to me.
I value HANDLING and comfort, and the Germans have just nailed it. Good luck in your decision, what color do you plan on getting?
#7182 of 7297 C230 Oil Filter Location
Sep 01, 2005 (7:50 am)
I have a 2003 C230 and cannot locate the oil filter. Can someone help me?
#7183 of 7297 Re: C-230 vs. Acura TL [magrezza]
Sep 01, 2005 (8:40 am)
I'll add my 2 cents here. I haven't bought a 2006 C-series car; but certainly plan to test drive one. The new engine and transmission combo have got rave reviews for the C280 over on the C280/C350 board. I've done some research and found that it seems a notable improvement on the current (previous?) C-series. In addition, as the previous poster mentioned, the turning radius is tight and the car is compact without being small. This "should" give a feel for easy maneuverability combined with decent power (for the C230) and smooth shifting.
Good luck! Personally, I'm leaning toward the C280 though.
#7184 of 7297 Re: C-230 vs. Acura TL [blk900t]
Sep 01, 2005 (10:03 am)
I have about decided on the Mercedes--even though the TL has "rave" reviews, it still seems to be a supercharged Honda, and has that "big car" feel. I love the size of the C-230.
I might add that I live in Puerto Rico, where space is very, very tight, and the size of theC230 is just right...the taxes we pay (are you sitting down) add about 26% to the full suggested retail price, which is what we pay...in fact, I'm paying a premium of $700 over MSRP, bringing the price of the car with lighting, sunroof, & elec. pacakges, to over $44K. The TL is $46K.
I am actually leaning towards white, since this saves about $850 with PR excise taxes. My dilema is that I don't like the way the Ash interiors appear behind the blue glass with the white exterior, and the black is such a severe contrast...I'm disappointed that Mercedes doesn't have attractive leather color choices, such as the Dakota that BMW has...this would convince me to pay the premium for full leather, for sure. I also like the Barolo red in pictures with Ash interior, however, there is no car here at my dealer to see in person.
My other concern is that I've read that the car is underpowered, and lacks torque, especially low end...I drove a used 2005 Komp. at a dealer, and was impressed, however, there is no 2006 C230 available for test driving (which is typical here). What is your opinion in this regard? MT has a great raving review of the C350, however, this car is over $50K with PR taxes, and unaffordable for me at this point.
As things look now with this gas fiasco, I may end up buying nothing, as my increased payment budget is going to be unfortunately consumed paying for gasoline.
Any thoughts you have would be appreciated!
#7185 of 7297 Re: C-230 vs. Acura TL [dfc3]
Sep 01, 2005 (10:09 am)
You bring up my other quandry--C230 vs. 280...I am definitely an aggressive driver, and have had a number of sport tuned autos--Passat, Z3, etcl, even though the roads here in Puerto Rico are awful...At the same time, however, I wish the engine in the C280 was that of the C230...I shy away from the C280's interior, which seems more like a car my father would buy, not me. Again, C350 is my ideal car, but too pricey for me with the high PR taxes.
#7186 of 7297 Re: C230 Oil Filter Location [vaughan2]
Sep 01, 2005 (1:27 pm)
All MB engines feature a filter that is accessible from the top of the engine, in a round cannister, usually black plastic about 3 inches in diameter, with a four- or six-sided screw top embossed wth the torque instructions for tightening. I can't be any more specific than that without a picture of the engine to look at....I would recognize it instantly if I had one in front of me.
(I'll search the internet to see if I can find a pic of the engine to verify.)
It looks like it's on the driver's side, near the firewall [back of the engine].
#7187 of 7297 Re: C-230 vs. Acura TL [magrezza]
Sep 01, 2005 (4:08 pm)
I can't respond to the relative lack of torque question. I haven't even seen a C230 yet - more yet test drove one. I have seen the new C280.
I understand what you mean, though. The C280 only comes in a sedan, not a sports version, which is fine for me (I have 2 young kids). To get a sports version, you'd need to move up to the C350. From the reviews, that seems like a great car, and its still on the same chassis as the C230/C280. But... I'm even shying away from the C350 on price - and I'm in the U.S. It doesn't seem worth paying an extra $4,000 for the added engine power (which is essentially what you get for it). Mercedes-Benz must have a higher markup on the C350.
You might want to check out another board. There's one under the Mercedes-Benz discussion boards called "C280 and C350" or something like that. Someone there may have bought a C230.
Sep 03, 2005 (12:26 pm)
I just purchased my first Mercedes Benz. I got C230 with Metallic Paint, Automatic transmission, Heated front seats, Sunroof Package, Lighting Package, Driver's side power seat. MSRP is $35,905. Invoice is $33,446. I got 9% discount from MSRP. I paid $32,673.55 plus $77 for tag and 3% Virginia sales tax. Total out the door price was $33,828.61. I originally considered SLK, CLK coupe and E class, Audi A4 and BMW 3 coupe. I loved the A4's ride, but I wanted to stay away from VW/Audi reliability problem. BMW 3 looked nice, but the model has been out in the market for too long. It would have been nice to get CLK coupe or E, but I think C230 is good enough.