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#6965 of 7297 2005 C55 AMG
Aug 04, 2004 (11:25 am)
I am thinking about getting the 2005 C55 AMG.
I know there is a C32 board, but it is read only and not much activity going on.
I want to know the quality reputation of Mercedes-Benz C class.
Is quality of the Mercedes-Benz much worse than, say, Honda? If it is, how much worse in terms of the typical problems and repair costs on C class? Also, does anyone have any experience with C32 AMG?
Thank you very much
#6966 of 7297 2005 C240 vs BMW 325i
Aug 05, 2004 (9:32 am)
Greetings all... I have been following this board for over a year and have found the discussions both interesting and insightful. This fall I intend to purchase either a new ('05) 240 (elegance) or BMW 325i. I have only owned and driven Corolla's in the past, on average keeping them 12 years...they have only ever been great cars. In terms of reliability, they are my standard. But I'm ready to try something more upscale now and after a fair amount of research it has come down to the 2 fine cars mentioned above. I intend to keep my next car for 10 years, I will only put low(city) mileage on it, will get the extended warranty and expect to pay it off within 1 year.
My first choice (or the choice of my heart) would be the 240, but I am concerned about the recent Consumer Reports ratings of the car. I know that the 01 and 02 years are of greater concern on this. How has the reliability been for those who bought '03 and '04 model years?
I guess my close 2nd choice (or the choice of my head) would be the BMW... its a little more sports sedan (I'm more of a touring sedan type myself)and it has very high ratings from most automotive sources... at any rate I would appreciate your thoughts, thank you...
#6967 of 7297 Re: 2005 C240 vs BMW 325i [bmbmw]
Aug 05, 2004 (12:02 pm)
For what it's worth, here's my opinion:
I think that the problems that plagued the early W203s are pretty much solved. We have actually had an excellent experience with our '02 C240, which was produced in January of '02, some 18 months after production started, and now there are an additional 30-some months that have passed. You could make an argument that a 3er might be more trouble-free, but I think the two cars are now very comparable.
I believe it boils down to two issues: do you value the extra refinement and space [the differences are small but noticeable] of the C vs the extra handling and "sportiness" of the 3er....AND....how you feel about your local dealers and their relative merits.
I am a big believer in CU and their data, but the problems with the early cars are weighing heavily on their recommendations [or lack thereof]. They're not big fans of the 3er's track record, either. Compared with any of the Japanese alternatives, the Germans are going to look bad - compared to each other, I don't see differences that make or break the decision. Use whatever other criteria are important to you to break the tie, but between these two cars, I don't think reliability [either short or long term - there is a difference] is a big point of departure.
Aug 05, 2004 (6:39 pm)
Both cars have been out for quite a few years, so the bugs are pretty much going to be worked out of both of them. I'm not sure how much weight this bears on your decision, but there is a new BMW 3 series coming out sometime next year (personally I'd take the current body style that's tested and true). As of 2004, both manufacturers offer 4 years/50K miles bumper to bumper warranty and free scheduled maintenance for the same duration. I'm pretty sure MB is dropping the scheduled maintenance for the '05.
Drive them both and see what you come up with.
Aug 05, 2004 (7:32 pm)
It's nice to believe that all the problems are solved and everything is wonderful now, but you are taking a risk unless you wait and see statistics proving it.
#6970 of 7297 I did NOT say....
Aug 06, 2004 (4:29 am)
..."that everything is wonderful now". I said that between a BMW 3er and an MB C-Class, there is little to choose in terms of what might go wrong.
I still believe that when you pick one of these cars vs the Japanese competition [have you tried a Lexus IS, for example?], you have to do so with the recognition that you will spend more time in the shop over ten years of ownership. Period. What I don't believe is that there are significant differences now between an '05 BMW 325 and an '05 MB C240 in how much time that will be.
Among rear drive alternatives, you really should check out the IS and Infiniti G, presuming of course you live in an area where a dealer exists within a reasonable distance. In both cases, I found the ride to be just flinty enough to make me prefer the Germans, and of course the IS has the additional disadvantage of being even more cramped than a 3er, but if reliability is a big concern, these two cars absolutely should be on your list. And the Acura TL, if FWD is not unacceptable.
Is this a balanced enough answer?
#6971 of 7297 Balanced Enough
Aug 06, 2004 (4:46 am)
jrct... Great post.
#6972 of 7297 C240 V6 2003
Aug 06, 2004 (7:03 am)
I thinking to buy a MB C240 V6 auto 2003. It was a demo model at local dealership and has 6 000 km on it. Question I have what about reliability of this car, specially about electronics? Mostly I drive in the city, but we (me and my wife) like drive long distance (3 000 km and more) when on vacation. Previosly I have only Honda. I did have drive test and love it. Any responces? Thank you
#6973 of 7297 Re: C240 V6 2003 [ermakov]
Aug 06, 2004 (7:44 am)
How is the car equipped? The simpler, the better. Trouble areas are the COMAND system, and the memory seats/electronic key interface. Otherwise, let the above observations be your guide, assuming the price and warranty are right.
I'm convinced that one of the reasons our C240 has been relatively easy to live with is that we deliberately avoided a lot of the electronic doo-dads that have been the source of so much of the trouble.
Understand, that compared with any Honda, your trouble list is bound to be longer over a 5 year period. The ride and general demeanor of this car, though, especially on long trips, is clearly superior to any Honda product except an Acura RL.
#6974 of 7297 Re: C240 V6 2003 [jrct9454]
Aug 06, 2004 (8:13 am)
I do not have memory seats on it, but car equipt pretty good, from my point of veiw. It has remaining warranty and price not bad and they give me good price for my trade in 2 years old Honda Civic. Yes, it is my concern about electronics. Thank you for response.