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#6681 of 7297 Buying a new Mercedes, part 2
Nov 15, 2003 (10:40 pm)
Hey guys, I never said that we shouldn't buy new cars. Heck, I bought my C230 brand new. However, I knew going in that the reasons were not financial. There is never a "savings" when buying a new car. Factor in warranty coverage, etc. it still costs more.
But, I wanted a new car. The 1998 C-Class had some nice updates that I liked (including side bags and SmartKey) so I bit the money bullet and went ahead.
Eventually, every car reaches the end of it's useful life, and gets very expensive to maintain. Usually that is WELL past the 5-7 year mark, and that's why used MB's hold their value so well.
MB's challenge is come up with compelling reasons to buy a new one. If MB Canada brings a C270CDI to market with a Classic trim available without COMAND or any other useless stuff, I'll be down writing a cheque.
Nov 16, 2003 (5:28 am)
While my 2002 C240 was getting the B service last week, my loaner was a 2002 C320. The flipwheels (four have white markings, one has blue) used to control the airflow in the dash are illuminated at night. In my C240 they aren't. Should they be? I'm thinking that when they went in through the dash to install the CD changer, they failed to re-connect something. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I now have 21K miles and still love the care.
#6683 of 7297 Any idea on retail cost
Nov 18, 2003 (8:36 pm)
for a 2001 C320, assuming under 30K miles???... were they available with Sport package and Xenon lights, and, if yes, about how much more should that raise the price???...are most MB dealers negotiable on used car prices, or do they stick to their guns on asking price "because it's an MB"???...thanks for any thoughts...
#6684 of 7297 Post #6668
Nov 21, 2003 (2:30 pm)
Well thought out, John. I went through a similar process when I decided to lease my first MB eight years ago. I found that all vehicles cost to run, and MB is higher than most - though not by an extreme amount, as most of the general public seems to believe. Personally I have to love what I drive.
Some people such as myself are willing to deal with the fact our cars are not as up-tp-date and full of safety and convenience options as they could be. I drew the line at Y2K, which had enough features for me. Hopefully my C230 will serve me until it's time to replace the air bags (15 years).
I am encouraged to hear from you that remedial maintenance will probably not exceed $1,500. per year after the extended warranty expires, I would think it especially so if the car is not a daily driver. Thanks very much for that info.
I paid $32,000. cash (including trade) for the car, so on my financial spreadsheet I deduct $300. per month from its value for depreciation. Next year I will change that to $250. per month., and in two more years, $200. per month. Eventually, that amount will become a remedial maintenance expense instead of a depreciation one.
Btw, at 39 months and 11,100 miles my C230's battery just died. All covered under warranty, though. Guess I don't drive the car often enough, something I'll need to start doing.
#6685 of 7297 2005 Mercedes C-Class
Nov 22, 2003 (8:20 am)
Has anyone heard any additional information about the changes Mercedes is planning for the 2005 C-Class? I saw some information from a link in a previous post, but wanted to know if anyone knows any additional information. Sometime next year I was thinking about getting a C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan, but if the car is going to be redesigned, I would rather wait till I know more about the changes.
Any information would be appreciated.
#6686 of 7297 C240 the real deal
Nov 23, 2003 (9:03 pm)
I test drove a C240 Sedan about 2 years ago at a Mercedes-Benz "Power-Trip" event. I always liked the C's Shape and interior (don't care for the small tach), thought it handled well (even w/o the sport package. I felt the 168hp V6 was underpowered. But after Saturday (yes I work on Saturday) morning's commute to work, I can say that the C240 is a certified Autobahn Burner. Saturday at about a little after 7AM I passed a seemingly harmless Silver C240 on the northbound Westside highway at about 80mph. About 30 seconds later I saw him pull up in the left lane and moved over (like you're supposed to). He blew by me traveling well in excess of 90mph and didn't look like he was running out of steam.
#6687 of 7297 '99 C230K vs. '97 BMW 528/540
Nov 23, 2003 (10:20 pm)
We're considering a '99 C230K one owner, private party (all service records) with 66K or a 97 BMW 528 or 540 with 97K (dealer car). I would appreciate feedback regarding either car.
Nov 24, 2003 (12:13 am)
The 2005 C-Class won't be redesigned, only facelifted. The usual, lights, wheels, bumpers, seats, equipment (standard in-dash CD) etc, nothing major, but might be worth waiting for, as Mercedes are usually best after a facelift for many reasons. The new all-new C will debut for the 2007 model year.
#6689 of 7297 facelift from last generation
Nov 24, 2003 (8:14 am)
I remember the facelift on the last generation C-class. They hardly did anything at all. The only thing I noticed was that they "smoked" the rear tail lights.
Does anyone remember if they did anything else last time?
Apparently, the rumor is that this C class will get a more substantial facelift than that.
#6690 of 7297 Re last-gen C-Class facelift...
Nov 24, 2003 (8:58 am)
...was for the 1998 model year. The taillight lenses did receive a "smoked finish." Also, wider wheels and tires were added. (IIIRC, the size went from 195/70 R 14 to 205/60 R 15). The wheels were given a polished or bright finish as opposed to the flat grey finish of 1994-1997. The formerly black-painted lower body received color keyed sill and bumper extensions. The front and rear fascias were redone. I also believe the headlights may have been made a bit more powerful. The smart key and flexible service system were also added that year. Doesn't sound like much, but I think the changes made the 1998 version better-looking (I ended up buying a 2000).