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#6377 of 7297 C230 Sports Sedan
Mar 25, 2003 (3:54 pm)
About 2 years ago, I had the opportunnity to drive a C230K Sports Coupe (Automatic) and a C240 (Automatic, No Sport Suspension). I was very impressed with the rigidity of the chassis on the C240, but thought the car was underpowered for my tastes. I liked the C Coupe, especially the Supercharged engine. I immediately started to play frankenstein in my head and said that MB should offer the Supercharged I4 with the sedan body style. Well, 2+ years later my daydream has become a reality. I was excited to read that the C230K Sports Sedan is a reality (and priced very competitvely). I love the 17" wheels. I look forward to reading your driving impressions and ownership experiences. I'm sure that since the C has been out for 2 years that MB has worked out all of the electrical, transmission, and interior fit & finish bugs that I've heard about 1st hand from some friends of mine who bought the first round of C240s & C320s.
Truth be told, I've always been a big fan of Mercedes. Even now, I think that they pen some of the most beautiful cars on the road. Some of the issues that my friends have had in the last few years with their new M, S, & C class cars have definitely skewed my thoughts away from Stuttgart and towards Munich (I'm not saying BMWs are perfect, and no I don't want a Lexus ES300). BMWs chassis dynamics are remarkable. I like the styling of their cars, but Mercedes are still more beautiful.
When I'm in the market for an entry-level sports sedan, I'll deinitely check out the C230K Sports Sedan (Black/Black 6-speed). For now I plan on enjoying flying onto and off of highways as well as the twisties in my 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH.
Mar 26, 2003 (9:49 am)
im taking the car today afternoon from the diler finally, i will update post after that, i just hope with good news for the performance of the car .
#6380 of 7297 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C230 vs C240
Mar 27, 2003 (3:46 am)
I am looking for the new 2003 C-class. Can anyone give me suggestion about C230 kompressor sedan and C240 sedan? Which one is good for my need? I am looking for a quiet, comfort car. Any different between two cars in the standard options? Power or performance is on second priority. Thanks very much.
#6381 of 7297 Sedan vs Sedan
Mar 27, 2003 (1:58 pm)
The C230k will be slightly quicker, more economical, better handling, and harder riding. The C240 will be slightly quieter, better riding, and softer. Depends on what you want.
Also, the performance tires on the C230k can be expected to wear out about 50% faster than those on the C240, depending on which OEM tires are on each car.
Mar 27, 2003 (6:14 pm)
Hiya, listen the test drive got derailed last week:( I've got some travel coming up so am not sure when I'll get back to the states...Good luck on your car and let us know how it is when you get it...take care...
#6383 of 7297 2004 Rumours?!? Lets Start some...
Mar 27, 2003 (6:53 pm)
Notwithstanding Tony and the other folks anxiously awaiting their orders for this years models, those of us still in the tyre kicking stages are perhaps wondering what changes in store for 2004...
Here are my random thoughts for 2004 C class changes, what are yours?
o Rationalisation of 3.5L V6 across line, replacing 3.2L
o Deletion of "sport" versions of wagons
o Deletion of 240 model entirely, being replace by a "non sport" version with 230K engine/5 spd autobox standard
o Minor Trim and Exterior Restyling with styling cues taken from new E class - to include more rakish rump (can you say that on Edmunds?), redo headlight treatment to be more like new E, to yield an overall more coupe-like effect a la Alfa Romeo 155
o Replacement of "roundy corner" standard wheel treatment with something with more "bite" to it
o Replacement of current somewhat OTT sports wheel treatment with a more retro AMG monobloc look (or more like current C32 double spoke)
o HID headlights to be installed across entire C class model line
o Rain sensing wipers standard
o Factory standard Optional CD or Cassette player stereo radio with upgraded stereo effects as standard
o New C35 AMG with even more grunt!
Opinions are my own, I am not an employee of DCX, your mileage may vary, etc
Mar 27, 2003 (8:55 pm)
There is no 3.5L engine ... MB's ML350 is a 3.7L engine, the V6 component part of MB's 500, as the 320 is based on the 430.
In addition to a C350, there could be a C430 or a C500 as these already already exist in the CLK-Class and people buy them.
In the past, there was a C43. I do not know anything about them--sounds good but it would be a niche car like the C32. The C320 already provides incredible power in all normal driving situations so it doesn't seem like the numbers involved for specialty C's would be very high.
I think a diesel "C" would be the most likely addition to the fleet, to join the 45-state E-Class diesel that is due out by the end of this year.
#6385 of 7297 Rumors, just rumors
Mar 27, 2003 (9:43 pm)
I don't think they're going to get rid of the C240. It represents (to them) an entry level luxury V6. Plus it is the cheapest (sorry, least expensive) MB available with 4MATIC. The 4MATIC will definitely increase sales (at least here in the SUV/AWD-crazy Northeast).
Making HIDs standard across the line will only increase the base price which they do not want to do. Keep 'em optional. Ditto with Rain sensing wipers. (Truth be told, if you want a car with more power and zero options check out an Acura TL Type S).
C35 AMG: OVERKILL. The C32 (So cool, I saw a black one today...ultimate stealth mobile) is doing just fine. I still say they need to offer it with either a 6 speed manual or some type of SMG Transmission (like on the M3, Ferrari 360, Aston Martin Vanquish, & Maserati).
I don't think they need to drop the 3.7L V6 in the car. The 3.2 is a great engine. I'd rather them spend money on better quality interior materials and handling/suspension upgrades.
A V8 would make the C class way too nose heavy. The C32 is eons ahead of the old C43 in terms of performance.
The next big change you will see across the entire MB lineup will be the new 4 valve/cylinder DOHC heads as opposed to the current 3 valve SOHC Head.
Mar 28, 2003 (11:44 am)
I'm going to ignore all of those "rumors" since my car just arrived in the states today and jump back to the sedan comparison question.
The C230 Kompressor definitely gives the driver more feedback; in other words, the ride is more harsh and the road noise (due to the 17inch, low profile tires) is more prevalent within the cabin. However, I find the C240 to be too plush; lacking in a little feel and feedback that I crave. The C240 is also a little bit sluggish verses the 1.8L Kompressor engine in C230. Yet, taking into account what your post said, the C240 will give you that ride comfort you are looking for. It also comes standard with wood trim & 8 way power seats verses the aluminum trim and 4 way power seats in the sport sedan. The C230 also has bigger tires (as previously mentioned), additional body molding & front fascia treatment, and different door handles (no chrome trim). I lean, of course, towards the new sport sedan (which I ordered back at the end of January), but know that you will probably love a C240 and most likely get a better deal on one.