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#5689 of 7297 2002 C 230 Kopressor Sportoupé
May 31, 2002 (10:20 pm)
We picked up our C 230 K on last Wednesday - what a superb car! It's like a cathedral inside, such is the quiet and solidity at speed. The torque is unbelievably strong, far better than the C 240s we drove (I still like the C 240, don't get me wrong).
Of course, the 2.3 L C 230 develops 30 more lbs-ft 2000 rpm sooner than the C 240, which explains everything. I wish the 4 cylinder engines were available in the sedans in N. America. The new 1.8 will not match the now superseded 2.3 for torque or the breadth of the peak, but I'd still prefer the 192 HP 4 cylinder due to its far better fuel economy and better speed. Too bad it's not available in the sedan, even in Europe (only the 162 HP version is).
About the idea that the C is the Mercedes-Benz for people that can't really afford one, and all the more expensive models are better, I'd like to point out something.
You could just as easily say that the more expensive M-B models are for those with more money than brains, though that would be cruel and most probably untrue.
But there is a kernel of truth to this, if only in the sense that the C Class, provided the vehicle size is to your liking, offers FAR better value for money than the ones that cost two and three times as much. The more expensive ones are simply not that much better than the C. In fact, German reliability statistics point out that the C has fewer breakdowns than the larger Benzes.
So yes, Virginia, the C Class is a real Benz and in fact it is by far the best value for money that this particular firm offers in North America. This is epecially true in Canada, where C prices are way lower than the equivalent cars in the USA.
#5690 of 7297 Extended Warranty
Jun 01, 2002 (8:14 am)
Hello, all. It's been almost a year now since receiving my desert silver C240 w/sport package. Have loved every minute of it!
My time is running out and I'm about decided to get the extended warranty since my 2001 was the first model year of a car with many new electronic bells and whistles (and seeing some of the problems with the very first of these cars back when I shopped in early 2001).
There used to be a member here who provided the name of a M-B dealer who offered the extended warranties at very good prices, which you would purchase and transfer to your dealer, or at least use the quote to show your local dealership. Does anyone still have that information?
Thanks a million. Email to schreyerepix.net if you think it's more appropriate.
Love my C!
#5691 of 7297 jmezz: lease price
Jun 01, 2002 (9:44 am)
My C240 (auto, C2, CD), lease for 39 mo, with $733.60 drive off would have been $469.60 a month including tax. I would guess that with no drive off you'd still be under $500 a month.
#5692 of 7297 Extended Warranty by tschreyer
Jun 01, 2002 (10:28 am)
Yes, I bought my extended warranty from Lisa Lehrbaum from Courtesy motors in Chico, CA (530-893-1300). I paid $1680 for 4 year extended warranty, compared to MRSP of $2550. Unfortunately, the 4 year extended warranty was discontinued on April 30 (but 3 years still exists), and other prices increased from MB. But probably Courtesy motors still offer good prices for 1-3 years warranties.
Jun 03, 2002 (6:39 am)
2 weeks ago i got back from a trip to cape cod, mercedes ran fine at 80-90 mph the whole trip down not one problem, average was 27 mpg for a round trip of 414 miles. the car now has 3,800 miles on it and it is running fine only 1 problem was the outside temp gauge sensor was faulty, it was reading apx 40 degrees off, dealership put a new one 1 in the next day for me.
around town the car is getting 23mpg city driving not bad at all, i like the car very much, on long trips like down to the cape my legs started to cramp a little as i'm 6'5" and the seat all the way back and down. this car has been great and only seems to get better i would recommend this c240 for anyone looking for a nice car to drive around in.
#5694 of 7297 RE: Extended Warranty
Jun 03, 2002 (7:16 am)
Thanks for the reply, ahost. If I don't hear more I will pursue your reference.
Sounds like I should have been paying more attention. If I had I may have opted for the 4 year extension before it was discontinued.
Does anyone find it worrisome that they canned the 4 year extension? I can imagine the two years of statistical data on the new C's which may have led to the business decision...
But I like to remain positive!
#5695 of 7297 RE: Extended Warranty by tschreyer
Jun 03, 2002 (9:18 am)
I also bought an extended warranty from Lisa Lehrbaum at Courtesy MB in Chico, but only for 3 years/100k miles. My C-240 will have 100k before 7 years are up, and the three year term was a hundred bucks less. Lisa was very easy to work with.
I think that MB-USA cut the available extended warranty to a 3 year extension for ALL MB passenger cars, not just the C-class. It is possible that they looked at their claims experience in the last year of coverage, and didn't like what they saw. I think that simultaneous with reducing the term limit on the extension, they also raised the coverage price. If you get a quote from Lisa, please post it so that other folks will know what their options are, and I can tell my wife what a bargain our EW was.
#5696 of 7297 Heads up!
Jun 03, 2002 (2:13 pm)
The Town Hall is about to take on a new look in an effort to make content more easily searchable and accessible.
Have you seen the Letter from the Town Hall Manager on the Town Hall Welcome page? If not, you might want to follow that link to have a look.
And hang on to your seats. Change is never easy - for any of us - but resolving the Search problems we've had will be worth the pain.
#5697 of 7297 C240 Seat Memories, Front Bushings & Loaners
Jun 05, 2002 (5:26 am)
I contacted MB USA via email after reading the previous posts about seat memory loss and drift. I clipped out the technical service bulletin and they instructed me to make an appointment with my dealer and tell the dealer to contact the area service technician. Gregg at Brandywine Mercedes in West Chester Pennsylvania called yesterday and told Cheryl someting about ordering a "#1" replacement key. This is the fourth time we've had a service call on the seats or keys. I'll keep everyone posted.
Cheryl and I began to notice a low frequency rubbing noise from the front of the car when pulling into our driveway. She sat in the car while I pushed on either bumper and the sound was obvious. Gregg said that the "Bushings were defective". He told Cheryl "The parts will be in on Thursday."
Lastly, I live in South Jersey, one $3 brige toll and about an hour from my Brandywine Mercedes. Here's the list of loaners I've had: 2000 C230, 2001 C320 Sport, 2000 ML320, 2002 C320 Wagon, and a 2001 E320. The drop off/pickup drivers are always polite and on time. With the exception of the current drought conditions, our car is returned washed.
#5698 of 7297 C240 Seat Memories, etc. by mmoskoitz
Jun 05, 2002 (9:21 am)
My mirrors and seat settings drift, too, and seem to have done so more often lately. (By the way, I have the same settings on the key saved to memory #1 on the door and I just pop the button there when I see that it's not quite right as a work-around.)
But after your message Michael about replacing the key, it occurs to me that I just replaced my batteries in my key (at the dealer, $9.95 + tx) because it was starting to operate intermittently. The greater frequency of memory drift may have been related to the failing batteries in the key. I'll have to see if the settings stick any better now with fresh batteries.
By the way, my C240 is just approaching its 1st year with us, so I thought that was pretty soon to be replacing batteries. My key is the one used 90%+ of the time, but I was kind of surprised to be changing batteries already.