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#5672 of 7297 mbnut1
May 18, 2002 (10:50 am)
The new 1.8L engines will be coming here this year, first in the 2003 C 230 K model. I wish they would offer these "M271" engines in the C sedan too, as the low-tech 3-valve 2.6 L V-6 is a bit of a dog (no power, peaky torque, a bit rough running due the the 90 degree bank spacing and with quite poor fuel economy).
Maybe the updated version of the V-6 that Mercedes is working on right now will be a major improvement on it.
In any case, I'd like a 170 HP supercharged four in my sedan, thank you very much! These new engines should be as smooth if not smoother than the V6 due to the double Lanchester balancers and their small displacement. Plus, the torque characteristics of the supercharged engine will be vastly superior to those of the C 240 - more torque, more at lower revs, and a flatter curve to boot.
Meanwhile, the 2.3 L four in the 2002 C 230 K we have on order right now (should get it in a week or so) will have to do. It's got bags more speed and torque than the 2.6 V6 and better fuel economy (1.2 L/100 km better, over 10%) too. It's no smoother, though.
#5673 of 7297 As noted above...
May 18, 2002 (1:40 pm)
...we in North America will apparently only see the new 4 in the C-Coupe....for now. That will be the standard engine in the '03 version of the Coupe starting in Aug/Sept, whenever they start to arrive at our ports.
After that, who knows? MB seems to have actually committed to sending us the next-gen A-Class, which should be here for the 2004 model year, or so they are promising. One or more of the new 4s will be the standard engine in our A, though there will presumably also be hybrid or fuel cell drivetrains designed for this car as it matures in our market. Whether or not we will see another 4 cyl C sedan is open to question - I kind of doubt it, but the marketing people at D-B [and for that matter, BMW, as well] are notoriously schizoid about their perception of what appeals to Americans, so anything is possible.
#5674 of 7297 Is this place dead, or what?
May 28, 2002 (7:20 pm)
Tomorrow we pick up our new 2002 C 230 Kompressor - magma red, 6 speed manual, panorama roof and rain sensor wipers. It should be an exciting day. All the best to other M-B owners.
May 29, 2002 (6:47 am)
Are there any owners of current C240s out there who can share what it was that made them buy their car over another? In the market for a low thirty-ish car. I have always considered M-B the be the pinnacle of automotive excellence--whether they are or not is irrelevant because I think they are. I'm having a real hard time getting "excited" about the C240 just for the sake of owning a M-B. My perception of the small Mercedes has been that it's the one you buy when you want a M-B, but can not afford one. Like a 3-Series BMW. I know the C240 is loaded with safety features like the head curtain airbags and stability control. Anyway, just wondering what made you decide to get the C240 over, say, a Passat GLX, Infiniti I35, Acura TL, Lexus ES300, or even a BMW 325i. I hope I made some sense. Thanks.
#5676 of 7297 claywaterfill
May 29, 2002 (9:30 am)
We bought a C240 for my wife last summer. We didn't cross shop the Passat. The I35, TL, and ES300 are simply ugly in my opinion. Also, my wife likes driving smaller cars, and I believe that all of the cars that you mentioned are somewhat larger than the C.
We did drive the 325. My wife has this thing about cars with high rear decks. She has trouble seeing out the rear view mirror in such cars and thus didn't like the 325, which has a high rear deck lid. The C240 was noticeably quieter as well -- the 325 seemed to have a lot more wind noise, particularly around the A-pillar. She's not a sporting driver, so the tighter handling of a 325 is simply lost on her. I don't like parts of the interior on the 325 as well.
We've had the C240 since September 2002 and I have to say that it is a very nice car, IMHO. It's a tad slow and a bit soft for my tastes, but still a very nice, refined car. Would I prefer a E or S class? Sure. Just don't want to pay for one.
May 29, 2002 (11:50 am)
Thanks. I understand what you mean. I guess my problem with perception is my problem. I'll either get over it, or I won't--but if I go elsewhere, it won't be because I didn't like Mercedes-Benz!
May 29, 2002 (7:06 pm)
My C240 was built to order and delivered Feb 2001. I was coming off of an Acura Integra and shopping for a TL when the local MB dealer received his first C Class demo. After driving the C, I tried the BMW 325 Wagon and the Acura dropped off my screen. The only choice was the C or the BMW. The BMW is quite a drive and I believe I would have been happy with it, but the C won my heart. I don't understand the complaints about the C 240 being slow. Its certainly not a dragster, but on the highway, cruise set at 80, going up a grade, with the A/C on, when I press the peddle to pass I get a pleasant push against my back and an assertive speed gain that minimizes my time in the left lane. However, if power is what you want, get a C 32 AMG, then you get the power, speed, and the luxury too. Either way you can't go wrong, there is absolutely nothing like driving a Mercedes in my opinion. (YMMD)
"... My friends all drive Porsches, I must make AMENDS..." J. Joplin
#5679 of 7297 MB service in Sacramento area
May 29, 2002 (9:10 pm)
I'm considering purchasing my first MB, a '98 C280. I want to make sure there is a reliable service shop in my area. Has anyone had any experience with the Silver Star Motors shop in Carmichael?
May 30, 2002 (5:32 am)
claywaterfill: For my tastes, acceleration of the C240 off the line is a bit slow. Midrange and upper end is ok. But it is a bit sluggish off the line. Would I have preferred a C32 or even a C320? Of course. But the C32 costs around $50k, this is my wife's car that I don't drive very often, and she wouldn't notice the difference.
#5681 of 7297 re: C240 vs others
May 30, 2002 (2:40 pm)
claywaterfill: Picked up my C240 last Monday, and very pleased with my decision. (Bordeaux, Auto, C2 pkg, CD-changer) Decision was primarily focused on price. Runners-up were 325i, G35, A6. Dealer came in $700 under invoice on the C240, which really sealed the deal. That gives me the opportunity to lease a Mercedes at a price that I'm very comfortable with. Closest runner-up was the BMW at around $100 a month more expensive. (Didn't find a more aggressive price w/ BMW)
I think I got a great car at a great price.
Next time I'd add memory seats as well.