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#5282 of 7297 Recommendations on pre-owned C or E-Class
Jan 26, 2002 (1:24 pm)
I bought a 1995 C-Class new in 1995, and drove it for 40,000 *very* careful miles. During that time the following items needed repair:
- Hood repainted due to paint spots on delivery.
- Front grille replaced due to buffing scratches at delivery.
- Power antenna motor replaced - making strange noise.
- Radio replaced because station search buttons lost tension and wore out (my fault for pressing so much).
- Instrument cluster replaced - gas gauge and tachometer inoperative when cold.
- Air Conditioning condenser replaced - no A/C during the summer of 1998.
- Trunk repainted for rust spots above license plate bracket in 1999.
- Climate control aspirator sensor fan in overhead console replaced after warranty expired, $95.00. Had been causing climate control to vary in temperature for months, but I never could figure out what was wrong.
All in all, because the car was under warranty I did not experience any economic hardship for these repairs - and was somewhat indifferent to their occurrence. However, had the car not been under warranty, I would have been taken to the cleaners as the above problems would have cost thousands of dollars to fix.
One of the main reasons I traded for a y2K model C-class was because of the warranty. I did not want to drive my 1995 and pay for repairs when I could trade for the y2K which (with extended warranty I bought) is covered through 2008. Also, by that time my 1995 C needed new tires because the sidewalls were starting to crack, and it also needed to have 3 scratches repaired and 3 wheels (that I scraped on curbs) refinished. Those items would have been at least two to three thousand dollars to have done at the dealership, so spending the extra cash to get a new C-Class made sense to me. The new model also was a special edition Sport with a two-tone leather interior and all the options I wanted previously, but could not afford when I leased/bought my 1995 C220.
I've not had any problems with the 2000 C-Class to date - not really a fair comparison however, as I only have 4,750 on the odometer. My second car and daily driver is a '93 basic Toyota truck with 139,500 on it. Cheap to drive, cheap to fix. Water pump replacement at 122,000 miles that I did myself in 4 hours only cost $27.00 for the parts!
That's my experience - hope it helps you in your decision. For me it was just as cost-effective to buy/lease a new Mercedes than to acquire a pre-owned one, as I did not want to gamble with potential maintenance costs and the car being out of service periodically. I would expect you to find the mid-90's C and E MB models to be reliable vehicles, but not quite as reliable as those from Japanese manufacturers. This is why I make my Toyota my daily driver - that and to keep the dings and scratches off my y2K C's brilliant silver finish!
Best of luck to you in your decision.
#5283 of 7297 Madder Than Heck!
Jan 26, 2002 (3:12 pm)
I bought a brand-new Bordeaux Red C240 in Dec. 2000 from a major dealer in NJ. I now have driven the car for 13 months (12,000 miles) & decided to trade in the car for a BMW 325i station wagon (wanted a wagon & the BMW was cheaper than the MB & available in stick shift).
When the BMW dealer appraised the car, it informed me that the entire car had been repainted. I was stunned, but was convinced when they showed me the evidence (paint thickness is 2-3 times the standard factory paint thickness, rough edges along the forward trunk edge, tape lines along inner door frames, etc...). These are things I never checked for or knew to check for since I was buying a new car that I had ordered from an established dealer. Naturally, this makes my car very difficult to sell & reduces the resale value by $2000 - $3000. I talked briefly to the MB dealer who has denied that they did anything to the car.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can proceed to get justice on a fradulent act by my dealer? I'm not looking for a long, drawn-out process, but a simple way to establish that the dealer was responsible for this deception & compensation for the loss of value & my time & effort to clear this up. Specifically, I would love advice on what people I should deal with at the dealer, MBNA & what documents will help support my case.
Thanks in advance for any help that you may be able to provide.
#5284 of 7297 TeleAid Renewal
Jan 26, 2002 (5:09 pm)
I didn't renew my TeleAid subscription when it came due last November on my C320. I haven't had any problem with malfunction messages when starting nor has my SOS light become annoyingly bright. I never used the system except to start the service when I bought the car and felt that $240 was too much to pay.
Jan 26, 2002 (5:46 pm)
My wife is the primary driver of our C320. $20/mo. buys us peace of mind for:
- Breakdowns/flats/out of gas assistance
- Serious accident watchdog
- Remote unlocking
- Theft recovery
- Travel information
- Ability to report an emergency
If none of this interests you then why pay for it?
If you have never taken advantage of any of these features then you are fortunate.
#5286 of 7297 Response to # 5038
Jan 26, 2002 (6:35 pm)
I've heard that often when on the boat, if a car is damaged at all it is repaired while it is inspected at port. While your dealer has access to this information- perhaps your salesman may have not known? In any case your dealer or insurance company may be able to track down the right people to talk to to compensate your loss, or perhaps because of the inconvenience they can give you a good deal on a new MB wagen? While this is undoubtedly a poor experience for you, it's not uncommon with imports and as a recent BMW owner I know at least, I am much more satisfied with MB products/service as a whole. Good luck to you.
#5287 of 7297 Need help in playing mp3 songs
Jan 26, 2002 (7:44 pm)
Hi - I recently bought a portable mp3/cd player with a cassette adapter. I had high hopes of listening to non-stop mp3 music in my 2001 c240. I was disappointed when the cassette door did not close because of the wire and there was this beep sound every two seconds because of that. MB customer service advised me that they don't recommend(!!) playing mp3 songs this way and there is no way to turn off the beep sound when the cassette door is kept open. I wish they had a setting for this in the instrument panel. Mp3 player works like a charm in my other acura car.Does anybody know whether there is a mp3/cd player available for c-240 yet ? Thanks for any advice
Jan 26, 2002 (7:54 pm)
While I usually stick to bought and homemade CDs, I hear that the IPOD works great in the C if you have access to a mac
#5289 of 7297 Brake dust is so tough!
Jan 27, 2002 (3:15 pm)
The brake dusts of my C320 on the front wheels are so tough, that they can't be removed even with MB "Wheel Care". Any effective ways to remove that?
#5290 of 7297 Is my Mercedes dealer bing honest?
Jan 28, 2002 (4:41 am)
We are in the process of purchasing a new MB C240. I have relied upon the invoice information provided by Edmunds.com to negociate the deal (my cost over invoice). For metallic paint, Edmunds shows:
I assume that there is no invoice cost for metallic paint, but my dealer is certian that there is an aprox. $500+ invoice cost (I can't remember his exact quote), which he derived as a percentage of the MSRP. Is there such a cost, and if not, where can I find documentation that will convince him otherwise (i.e., does MB publicly post invoice prices, or will they provide this info if I contact them directly)?
#5291 of 7297 lgxmb - brake dust
Jan 28, 2002 (10:16 am)
For the dust that's on them now, I don't have any recommendations - maybe a Meguiar's product, they are really good. Whatever you do, don't use a "scrub pad" as it will scratch the heck out of the finish on your wheels.
However to avoid future stuck-on dust you may want to try washing the wheels then waxing their surface. I do this on my C-Class and afterwards, the brake dust always washes right off with a hose and car wash soap.
You'll probably want to wait until the brakes cool down before you wash your front wheels though. This will keep from possibly warping your brake rotors, as I had happen with my last C-Class. I am much more careful now.