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#4560 of 7297 ceccon - c240, C280, E320
Sep 22, 2001 (4:47 am)
I agree with mbnut. There is absolutely no justification for getting a 2-3 year old C280 for the same price as a new 240. As for the E320, I think the biggest trade-off is size and, perhaps, long, long term durability. I have friends who have put 200k+ miles on the previous generation E-class (one who has 300k on a 1991 260E that he is now giving to his daughter). There have been some concerns expressed on this board and others that the new generation Mercedes are not "overbuilt" the way previous generations were.
I was wondering, however, where you are from. I live in the DC area and there are a lot of used Mercedes being sold privately. Considerably better deals are out there on excellent condition used cars, if you are willing to shop around in my area. A friend just picked up a good condition 1998 E430 with 45k miles for $30,000 (quick deal w/ diplomat leaving area). In my area, I would expect that you could get a 2-3 year old C280 for $26-$30k and a 1997-98 E320 for a similar amount, assuming you are willing to shop around a bit.
I myself am a new car guy and am probably going the BMW route this fall, but wish you good luck.
#4561 of 7297 Thanks for the replies re C 240, C280 and E 320...
Sep 22, 2001 (5:22 am)
#4562 of 7297 Now here's the body of the last post
Sep 22, 2001 (5:36 am)
In response to prior questions and comments, I live in Los Angeles, and there are numerous E 320 4 year lease retruns available. I see them listed for sale for around $34k to $39k (depending mostly on whether its a dealer or a private party). I was gussing I could pick up a good low mile E320 for around $33k to $35k. Do you think I could get one for less? How much below asking price are dealers selling these cars for?
As for needing the room, I have two kids, and have one of them in the car most of the time on the weekends. My car, however, is used mostly for commuting. Therefore, I don't "need" more room, but it is always nice to have.
As for my Lexus being "driven into the ground" at 150,000 miles, I think I could get 50,000 more miles out of it fairly easily. But the car is paid off and it's time for a new one. Alright . . .I admit ...it's time for a new toy.
Personally, I am partial to the used E320. I think it's the best looking car out there. However, I'm worried that it will have greater repair costs over a 10 year period because you are not gettoing the first 4 years of use. Stated differently, my heart says get the E320, but my head says, get the C240
Again, thanks for your replies.
#4563 of 7297 New C vs. Used E
Sep 22, 2001 (6:16 am)
I, too, am in that situation.
I'm in the process of downsizing my garage. The wife keeps her mini-van. Why she loves it, I'll never know. But you can't beat if for size while throwing the kids and gear into for the ride up to Lake Tahoe!
I will replace my 1991 Porsche 928 GT w/31K miles and my 1987 MB 300D (6 cylinder turbo diesel)with 230k miles. I shuttle the kids around town, so I need a four door. The decision was either a used 320/420 or a new C240. Their price was comparable. I opted for the new C240. I took the hit on space to get a new car with a 6 speed. They're building it next week and it's due in next month.
I hope I made the right decision. I'll know about a day after I take delivery.
#4564 of 7297 Question for John W. (and others)
Sep 22, 2001 (7:03 am)
I noticed from this board that most of those who post here order their cars. (e.g. John W. is waiting for delivery of his C240). Why is that? It seems that in the Los Angeles/Orange County area you can find almost any color/option combination. Do you order because the exact color/options are not available on the cars on the lot? Or is there some other advantage?
#4566 of 7297 Another question for John W.
Sep 22, 2001 (9:37 am)
How much did you pay?
#4567 of 7297 More E vs. C and Why I Ordered a C240
Sep 22, 2001 (11:46 am)
I had a chance to rent an E class this past summer on our family vacation to Germany. It was a 2001 E220 CDI (Direct Injection Diesel)6 Speed. Yes, a 6 speed. It was silver with black cloth. We put almost 1,000 miles on it in 10 days. The 6 speed was sweet. No fuss, no muss. I have had a 1987 300D (6 cylinder Turbo diesel) for the last 10 years and the CDI was such an improvement in diesel technology, it was addicting. I wish it was available over here.
At any rate, the E class wasn't too small to be uncomfortable for the four of us (wife + 13 year old daughter + 10 year old son)on the trip with all our luggage. And there was a ton of luggage. So, I figured for everyday use, me plus 1 or 2 kids, that the C would suffice. Plus, I NEEDED that 6 speed.
I had to order my C240, since there wasn't one they could find with the options and color I wanted: Orion Blue, C2, C3, C4, Bose and sport package.
I ordered the car before the events of last week. I mention that, because apparently, there are now good deals to be had. I live in the SF bay area. The dealers I talked to in the extended area (about 6) were all unwilling to deal on an ordered car. I reminded them how their cost of sale on this car would be effectively zero, but they wouldn't budge. I knew the environment was more buyer friendly down in Los Angeles. So I went through a car broker up here who has a relationship with an L.A. MB dealer. They charged me $1k over invoice, which seemed like a good deal at the time. But like I said, things maybe different now.
Hope that helps (sorry for the rambling length)
#4568 of 7297 All these Problems with the C-Class -240,320
Sep 22, 2001 (5:35 pm)
I have to say that I ordered a MBC240 with lots of options back in February then cancelled it in May...Buyer's Remorse I suppose...Anyway - My point is...I am wondering if I made the right decision, but not for my reason.
Posts are all over the place of random problems...most with Keys randomly not working and not having successful repairs. Not to mention Sunroof repairs, cars going dead all of the sudden.. Are these cars really Mercedes-Benzes? I view other posts, looking at the VW Passat, and dont see a fraction of the problems there or most other cars online here at TownHall? What is going on? If I paid 35k for a MB & I had those problems, I would have no faith in my car & the whole new car experience would be lost on me...& that should not be the case with a Benz?
What are your thoughts on this??
Sep 22, 2001 (5:57 pm)
i have a 240... 23,000 miles virtually no problems... i know theres others like me... this board is a lightning rod for those that are having problems... but there are many that just never come... because they are problem free