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#2062 of 7297 #1987 of 1997 One more month until I get my C :-) by fredtwd
Mar 17, 2001 (1:20 pm)
>C)- Seat memory not working correctly (i.e. it >does not return to the correct position. >A "workaround" for this is to disable
>the "exit mode". I'm concerned as I want both features.
>REPLY: I am not aware of any outstanding >conditions with the C-class seats at this time.
We must go to the same dealer!
My personal experience and that of several others:
The C320 has three memory settings. This means you should have the capability to set the seat, steering wheel, outside mirrors, with "exit" enabled (and I keep it enabled) with three settings of your choice. When I valet park or car wash, they always push the driver seat back. I ask them not to touch, but my seat is too close for most of these people. This interferes with the seat programming. If working correctly, you should be able to hold down a memory button and the seat will return to proper setting after it has been manually pushed back. Mine does not. I have to reprogram and hold up people behind me waiting to depart because I cannot reach the pedal to move the car to another place while reprogramming. I would like to program one of the three settings for a bigger and taller person than I am, so that when dealing with valet or car wash I can switch to that setting when giving them the car, and they will have no need to touch any seat adjustment buttons.
Different shoes also require other settings. If men or women wear shoes (cowboy boots) with different heel heights, you might want to have a setting to accommodate. I wear platform shoes sometimes which bring me closer to the pedal than regular shoes. I hear you all laughing, but, Yes, some men, too, wear platform shoes and different heel heights.
To summarize -- when you checkout your new car at delivery, program three settings vastly different from each other, with "exit" enabled and make sure all the settings work as they should.
Re remote key locking/unlocking. In a post I referred to this, also. When you lock your keys in the car or in the trunk (when you pick up your car you will understand that it is easier to lock keys in trunk) you are supposed to be able to call the TeleAid service and they can unlock your car for you from their location. This is promised in the C manual. This feature is not on cars with lower VIN numbers (somehwere below 55xxxxxxxx-59xxxxxx methinks), and I do not know if it is on later ones yet. When you pick up your car, or if you have the VIN already, you can call 1-800-Mercedes and ask them. I was told by someone that there is a fix for this, but I also mentioned I did not know if the info was reliable.
>The seat "rocks".
With or without music?
Mar 17, 2001 (1:23 pm)
I'm getting ready to order some Zaino products for the long awaited C240 and also thought I could experiment on my 2000 Ford Explorer. Here is what I plan on ordering. What do you "professionals" think? Should I consider their leather conditioner or tire gloss?
Z1 - Polish Loc
Z2 - Show Car Polish (clear coat)
Z6 - Gloss Enhancer
Z7 - Car Wash
The color of my c240 is going to be Bordeaux Red. This is a clear coat finish, right?
Thanks All ....
#2064 of 7297 Special order colors
Mar 17, 2001 (1:44 pm)
Can you special order colors that are not listed in the C-class brouchure? I figure if you're going to spend the extra 1,000 bucks to do this, you should have more choices open to you. There are some colors in the E class that I really like. Are the C and E made in the same factory, and if so, would this make it easier for MB to give me the paint options available on the E, for my soon to be C???
#2065 of 7297 seats, etc
Mar 17, 2001 (1:51 pm)
I thought previous posters had said that this exit mode/seat memory conflict was permanent, designed to stop someone from entering the car and having the seat restore back to a position that would pin them against the steering wheel? Why can't you just disable your exit mode before going to the car wash/valet, and allow your seat memory to be recalled afterwards?
It's good to see they appear to be switching to a different brake pad to resolve the squealing, there are many European brake pad makers like Mintex (excellent pads) and Pagid that could solve this problem.
It would be nice if MB had the "special wish" program like Porsche, where you could get the car in any color. MB is making alot of $$$ on these optional paints.
Feb 03, 2001 (8:49 am)
which bulbs would you recommend for the c?
re zaino/. looks like you have the right starter package.. though i do take my car to the(GASP) car wash... hand wash though
#2067 of 7297 also Z5 (swirl remover)
Mar 17, 2001 (2:35 pm)
just in case you manage to get some in while drying it, etc.
Mar 17, 2001 (2:39 pm)
Received my bulbs today and installed the high beams in the clk. As someone said, the owners manual will tell you what bulb designation is right for your lights as well as installation instructions.
They took about a week too arrive by mail and the price is as Ken Yee stated, including shipping.
One bulb (they come as a set) inside the Philips Packaging was loose as in Ken's, no problem with it. They are separated inside the package, so they do not have any chance of banging each other.
I went with the high beams as well as the low beams as I wanted all the light I could get on dark unlit roads.
#2069 of 7297 #2001 of 2004 seats, etc by nyca
Mar 17, 2001 (3:11 pm)
>I thought previous posters had said that this >exit mode/seat memory conflict was permanent, >designed to stop someone from entering the car >and having the seat restore back to a position >that would pin them against the steering wheel? >Why can't you just disable your exit mode before >going to the car wash/valet, and allow your seat >memory to be recalled afterwards
Not sure, but I think Drew posted the above. -- In my car, in order for the memory to hold three settings, "exit" has to be disabled all the time. If I decide I do not want to use "exit", I can disable and move the seat back and forth manually on a permanent basis. Many people do not use the "exit" mode -- it is not on the E-class.
In my car, the memory button is not engineered with the safety feature of stopping before pinning me against the steering wheel -- it is engineered to make me a hood ornament.
#2070 of 7297 seats, insurance
Mar 17, 2001 (4:08 pm)
Well sure, if you press the wrong memory button, the seat will pin you. But I thought the idea about the exit mode disable was that if the seat were to AUTOMATICALLY restore to the previous setting after being manually adjusted, if could pin someone. I'm confused here I guess, I don't own this car yet, so maybe I'm not making any sense.
Anyway, what do owners find the insurance rates to be on this car, in comparison to the cars they previously owned before buying this one? I'm sure it's higher, although the theft discount should be good with the satellite tracking, but I'm worried that those crash tests results might push collision rates up. Comments?
Mar 17, 2001 (4:42 pm)
The C-class uses 55 watt H7 bulbs for the high and low beams so you will have to go with those in order for them to fit. The ones that Steven is referring to are the Phillips VisionPlus bulbs that are available from www.fosmo.com for $32.77 per pair (lowest price by far anywhere, AFAIK). They put out 200 lumens more (per bulb) compared to the stock Hella bulbs. 1 lumen is equal to the light put out by one candle measured from a solid angle.
According to Auto Express, the Phillips VisionPlus H7 bulbs put out 1590 lumens, whereas the Hella bulbs only put out 1384 lumens. Of course, one also has to take into account headlamp reflector efficiency. For H7 bulbs/headlamps, the luminare efficiency of the reflectors are about 80%, I think.
Other headlamps with different bulbs have worse/less efficient (or far less efficient) reflector designs. In contrast, high intensity discharge Xenon headlamps put out 3200 lumens, and with almost a 100% reflector efficiency (for those Xenon headlamps that are not projector style). This is why Xenon headlamps are so much brighter (more than 2X) than halogens, excluding the huge gain in colour temperature.
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