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#813 of 12345 Curious...
by white6
Jan 08, 2001 (5:07 am)
I pulled up the web site of a dealer who recently bought-out a local Olds dealer. After taking our Intrigue in four times over three weeks, I know they have dozens of new Intrigues on the lot (maybe a hundred or so), yet their web site doesn't list a single one. All of their Buick's, Cadillac's, Audi's, ect., are listed... no Oldsmobile's. I guess they didn't deem it important enough to pay the web people to add the Oldsmobiles to their site. How sad.
BTW, to those looking at Aurora's... I drove a 2001 Aurora 3.5 that had 7,500 miles on it. Not impressed by the rattles and squeaks. Perhaps these cars are not as solid as first impression would give.
1415... At that price you must be looking at a convertible Z-28 SS. I have noticed that the 2000 models have rebates (all models of Camaro, not just 3.8), but finding one might be pretty tough at this point. Seems like to me maybe you could special order a 2001 and get exactly what you want. I usually get a better deal special ordering, since the dealer doesn't have to figure on paying for the car to sit on his lot; it's pre-sold. Also, at this point, you might just get the last of the production run; might be an instant classic. Of course, it could just as easily be a white elephant, I suppose. I wish I could actually drive my 2000 Firebird... we have had 3-inches of ice and 5-inches of snow in the last three weeks here in central Oklahoma. I guess I shouldn't complain, though, at least we didn't loose our electricity from trees crashing into power lines from all the ice. My wife only missed one day of work due to weather (she drives the Intrigue), and that was because the Intrigue was out of service waiting on an alternator and the Dodge Dakota wouldn't make it up the hill past our driveway (we live in a rural area... no road work for about 2 miles from our drive). With the Intrigue she had no problems. Something to consider when thinking about a Camaro for a daily driver. My Firebird hasn't left the garage for three weeks.
#814 of 12345 dealers are ordering cars!!!!
by 1415
Jan 08, 2001 (8:26 am)
All the dealers know at the time is that the 01 model is okay; they know nothing about any 02 model except the Bravada.
If you want to buy and you a current Olds owner you will get $1500 + they all carry a $2000 rebate except the Bravada at $3000.
What is still not discounted is the sticker MRSP; so take 10% off of it, and then you can use the cash bonus from your GM card to further reduce the price.
My dealer is ordering cars big time and they will sell as many as they can; so for some people this could be an opportunity.
Gotta run--will be back tonight...
#815 of 12345 re:dwg- "position Buick toward a younger, import oriented buyer?"
by ketch
Jan 08, 2001 (9:25 am)
as dwg so aptly wrote/asked..."Regarding the Buick comments above, does anyone else think that GM is going to try to position Buick toward a younger, import oriented buyer?"
Well, they are already stating as much, when the Buick Brand Mgr. , during intro of the Rendevous, said Buick's aim is the 35-44 year old segment, down from the 66 year olds they now average(!).
Good luck Buick, but it was "reach" for Olds to get me (due to its "invisibility marketing wise to import buyers like me, almost), and so Buick? Ya right. It would take the same makeover Olds SUCESSFULLY did to thier products, and a CORRECT marketing scheme. Oh, and rename it from Buick too, as if GM thinks Oldsmobile had negative baggage, for import buyers and those 35-44 age, in its nomencalture, imagine Buick.
Setting the "wayback" machine....Buick is dropped, and Rendevous is released as an Olds.
Jan 08, 2001 (12:35 pm)
A 35-44 target seems possible for Buick. The Rendezvous is attractive to me (at 32) and the Bengal I would be all over if my wife would let me. If Buick can replace LeSabre, Park Avenue and Century with some decent (more high tech) models, I have no problem moving to Buick. Honestly though.. I would rather have a Saturn badge on my car than a Buick.
Interesting that they still introduced an Oldsmobile concept in Detriot. I guess it was too far a long to scrap. Perhaps it will become a Saturn.
#817 of 12345 L8 Apex
by b4z
Jan 08, 2001 (2:19 pm)
With over 800 posts shouldn't we go to Intrigue VIII?
#818 of 12345 Actually...
by L8_Apex
Jan 08, 2001 (2:52 pm)
...we've bumped up the limit with the software and, in theory, we could continue in this topic forever. For now, we are going to recreate discussions but I'm not positive about the new rule of thumb.
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#819 of 12345 Quality into the future
by swagled
Jan 08, 2001 (4:49 pm)
That's really an open question. There is no technical reason quality would not be the same.
But in the real world, declining morale across-the-board will cause the better workers everywhere (assembly, inspection, shipping) to leave and be replaced by temps and fill-ins, or nobody at all. Inexperienced and overworked people just aren't going to do as good a job.
That's part of the reason I went ahead and bought out of the current inventory.
Jan 08, 2001 (6:11 pm)
Several have mentioned this concern before, but one must remember that every Oldsmobile model has a GM counterpart and is built alongside it's counterparts, so I don't really see a decline in worker morale. Heck, imagine builing cars on an assembly line day after day, unless your the guy putting the name badges on the cars, you may not even notice if you are building an Olds or a Buick. I think dealers will continue to orders cars as long as they are selling them. In fact, I think their inventory levels are based on the idea of "turn and earn" meaning that when one is sold, another one takes it place.
Jan 08, 2001 (6:12 pm)
BTW, talked with my co-worker who bought the Intrigue and he has already put 500 miles on the car just over the weekend. Not one single complaint so far.
#822 of 12345 intrigue
by b4z
Jan 09, 2001 (2:54 am)
www.intriguecar.com which is oldsmobiles' site has a streaming video that is kind of cool. They should have done it two years ago.