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Oldsmobile Intrigue, Sedan
#4252 of 12345 W Body platform
Aug 21, 2001 (6:32 am)
The W Body platform was first offered by GM in the year 1988 when it switched from its RWD midsize sedans/coupes (G-Body) to FWD. The first models boasting the W Body platform (Or also known as GN-10 on GM's lingo) were all coupes. The Buick Regal, Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme and Pontiac Grand Prix coupe. Later on in 1990 Chevy received the Lumina sedan/coupe and in 1991 Buick, Olds and Pontiac received the long overdue 4 door versions of the W body platform.
The W cars have been a cash cow for GM. The earlier samples had a ton of brake related problems and other relibility issues but they were generally dependable cars. Today's W Body cars are the second generation of the original 1988 W Body platform. The Regal, Grand Prix were re-designed last in 1997, the Intrigue came in 1998 (Replacing the Olds Cutlass Supreme) and finally the Impala, Montecarlo (Replacing the Lumina) in 2000. The Buick Century was an A-body car until 1996. In 1997 it was moved up to the W body platform.
If you come to think of it, your Intrigue, Impala, etc. etc is riding on a 13 year old platform...
Aug 21, 2001 (6:35 am)
jgriff : "Fast enough" is impossible to judge. Can't predict the future. Time will tell.
ab348 : Yes, way off topic. Concepts are just that... concepts. I agree the Terra4 is scary, but it will never be built. I doubt the Cien will either, but I like it. Back to the Intrigue...
After reading a number of articles, my impression is that the next generation Grand Prix will have some Intrigue qualities to it. I really have high hopes for this car. It is crucial that GM have a solid mid size sport sedan or they will loses people like me next car around.
#4254 of 12345 re:teo "W" bodies
Aug 21, 2001 (9:30 am)
Actually no, the W-bodies current platform is not 13 years old, having been
brand new in 97/98, although the pltaform name remained. Regardless of the
owners and those now not (and who continue to haunt us here, although why
is unknown), who perhaps have had bad experiences with the cars, the platform
is considered to quite good in the industry.
Aug 21, 2001 (1:43 pm)
teo reminds me of Cliff from Cheers - it's a little known fact that the GM W-body....
dindak - I recently moved where I am further from work and there are lots of wide open roads on the way. My commute used to be 80% city driving, now it's about 80% open highways. The Intrigue is now getting the workout that it deserves. It gets to do 3500+ rpm quite often. I love living further from work! I can see why people doing mostly city driving would probably prefer the 3800.
#4256 of 12345 crank sensor
Aug 21, 2001 (3:04 pm)
seems to be a relatively consistant problem with the 3.5 engine regardless of model year. I don't know for sure if this is the problem, but the wife said today that it is getting bad. Car starts and then almost dies, then idles up normally. It did die completely the other day and set the "check engine" light... which means there should be a code stored to point me in the right direction (hopefully).
BTW, one2one, not trying to be a know-it-all, but there is no such thing as a Trans Am Formula, just like there is no such thing as a Impala Monte Carlo. Two different trim packages. The Formula looks just like a regular Firebird; no extraneous appendages like the Trans Am. And, no offense, but there has never been an Intrigue made that could stay with a new TA. If you ran with him, he was either: A) Not trying B)driving an old and tired TA or C) not trying. It's just a matter of about 375 hp vs 215. I know they're rated at 310-320 hp; they are actually underrated by about 20%; shhhhhh, don't tell the insurance companies. It is more fun than you can possibly imagine. My Intrigue runs and sounds wonderful, especially when it gets up "on the cam." But the Formula sounds like a Winston Cup car and it pulls hard from idle all the way to redline.
#4257 of 12345 year/model check!
Aug 21, 2001 (3:59 pm)
Black 2001 GLS. Lets hear it from all current Intrigue owners. Your year, model, and color.
Aug 21, 2001 (4:03 pm)
The Z28 and Formula/Trans Am are kick ass cars. I can't believe GM is planning on dropping them with no immediate replacement in the works. With the Firebird gone, what is going to carry Pontiac's performance image? The Aztek? Heck, a big Cadillac Deville DTS is quicker than any other Pontiac model. So much for the performance division once the Firebird is gone.
Aug 21, 2001 (4:51 pm)
I guess Grand Prix GTP will be the performance beast for Pontiac now.
I've got a Silver 2000 GL with spoiler (a must).
#4260 of 12345 Crank Sensor
Aug 21, 2001 (5:20 pm)
Symptom: hard starting when engine is warm, lots of cranking, finally the check engine light comes on. Code: P0385. Part Number: 10456594. Description: Sensor 2.383 R.
#4261 of 12345 steering and rotors
Aug 21, 2001 (5:57 pm)
After reading the recent posts here, I have been noticing a slight, barely perceptible, repeated clunking or thudding through the steering wheel when turning at low speeds. Is that the beginning of the steering shaft problem? Does anyone have views on whether I should get this looked at now or whether I should wait to see if it gets worse?
Having had the rotors polished last week under warranty, I am not convinced the problem is fixed. I am feeling very slight pulsations when braking at low speeds.