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#390 of 12345 My 2001 Oldsmobiles
Dec 12, 2000 (2:35 pm)
I'm happy to say that I have a 2001 Intrigue GL AND a 2001 Silhouette Premiere. I bought these cars because I had a 1998 Intrigue and a 1997 Silhouette and I was very happy with them. I am truly sorry that Oldsmobile is being discontinued. They have always offered a great package at a reasonable price. As someone recently said, these won't be collector cars, but orphans. I had considered buying these cars after their leases expired, but will not do so now. The resale on the previous cars was bad enough--this latest blow will make them worse. Again, I am not sorry that I have these cars. I enjoy them and they provide a great value for the money.
Dec 12, 2000 (3:11 pm)
will be $1500 towards buy or lease on new Oldsmobile, $1000 towards any GM product. Don't know what will be done for our neighbors up north. The Bravada new body style is going thru as planned. When asked about time frame Gm is saying when demand runs it course is when they will cease. Which I think means when it is fically unsound to produce vehicle is when it will get the hook. The oldest design they have right now is the Intrigue. Everything else has been redesigned since the introduction of this vehicle. I STRONGLY urge any current Olds owner(96 or newer) to take the $1500 rebate apply it towards the subvented lease on the Alero or Bravada, save a ton and not worry about trade in value on a discontinued car. Take advantage of this offer even if you did not want a new Oldsmobile. Do this this month as the $500 savings runs out on Jan. 3rd. I am in the northesat so I do not know if the whole country is getting the extra $500 "Holiday Savings" I have no vested interest in this advice other than the fact my stepfather is one of only 63 stand alone Olds franchises in the country.
Dec 12, 2000 (3:15 pm)
Oldsmobile being phased out is a shame. It could've been avoided. No advertisement at all, lack of selection, and a high price that is the same as an Accord V6, Camry V6 and Maxima. Oldsmobile makes handsome cars, but considering the stellar reputation of the three above mentioned cars, why would anyone want to buy an Intrigue for the same to higher price?
Why did the Cutlass disappear two years ago? That was Oldsmobile's bread and butter for years. That was a mistake.
For GM cars, Olds ranks higher in quality than Chevrolet. To me, most Chevys are ugly and they're junk. Read the Cavalier and Malibu posts sometime. Chevys are horror shows.
As someone mentioned in an eariler post, Tauruses sell, why not Olds? Fords are the biggest pieces of crap out on the road. If there's room in the car world for Fords, then there is absolutely PLENTY of room for Oldsmobiles. It's GM's fault. They poorly managed the division. Period.
#393 of 12345 Kc Flynn
Dec 12, 2000 (3:20 pm)
Perhaps the Cavalier and Malibu are "Horror Shows" But the Impala is a totally different breed of car in terms of quality, safety and performance.
Proud owner of a '00 Impala LS equipped with the bulletproof 3800 Series II V-6 engine, 12,000 miles and ZERO problems. The new Impala is perhaps the best and most competitive Chevy sedan in the last 30 years, along side the 94-96 Impala "Whale" SS.
Dec 12, 2000 (3:33 pm)
a few years ago is what I will blame this on. They put in an inexperienced brand manager who I think came from Prell. That is not a typo-her expertise was in selling shampoo. The Cutlass was replaced by the Intrigue in the Oldsmobile line-up. I own a Cutlass and love this car. If you factor in rebates with the price of an Intrigue you will find they are cheaper-much cheaper in some cases. Does any one remember the Oldsmobile ad campaign that was "this is not your fathers' Oldsmobile" They have been fighting brand Image for a few years. I sold Oldsmobile when the Alero was introduced and was shown early ideas on the ads they were going to run and they were good, but they were not what I saw on TV 2 months later. I have driven the Alero on a race track and it out performed the Honda. I do not think I will run in to any Honda lovers on this site but if any are out there, I do not wish to have a discussion about Accord vs Alero. The biggest problem with Honda= power steering cavatation(very dangerous) I will miss Oldsmobile but I think is was the weakest child getting kicked out of the house, it could have been any division but GM has put more money in to Olds to redefine themselves as import fighters. GM made no mention of what was going to happen to the 3.5 liter Intrigue engine, only that it will continue to make the engine for the Intrigue.
#395 of 12345 Olds dies
Dec 12, 2000 (3:38 pm)
As someone who said this was going to happen, I am still extremely disapointed and angry with GM. This action is not the result of poor products (although noted quality issues are a factor) but poor managment and execution on the part of GM executives. It is inexusable that the company's most competitive products were allowed to flounder in the market like they did. Further, GMs only solution to Olds on going problems was to aimlessly throw money at the division as if the money itself would know how to fix things. Therefore, Olds failure is not only remarkable for the ineptitute of GM managment, but a loss when you think of how else they could have allocated those financial resources.
Needless to say, I won't likly be purchasing an Intrigue any longer. With the announcement that the division is going to be killed off, the poor resale values will get even worse. I expect that Enterprise or other rental fleets GM is associated with will be getting a steady stream of new Olds products between now and 2003-4. Perhaps killing Olds will in turn save Chevrolet, because the fleet market will be saturated so that they can't continue dumping Malibus.
Anyway, do you suppose GM can cram the 3.5l into the Saturn LS?
#396 of 12345 Think about it a second
Dec 12, 2000 (3:39 pm)
The next few months would be a really good time to BUY an Intrigue.
1) It is not a *true* orphan, it is similar enough to its sisters that you could probably have it serviced at any Buick or Pontiac dealer. Especially as the 3.5L becomes more popular.
2) The whole product line may shift to another division -- if the same car is sold under a different nameplate, it may not affect resale as much as you think. Especially if the product line moves to Chevy -- your Oldsmobile nameplate will actually look a little better! It is unlikely that GM will throw out the R/D costs on a proven performer.
3) Because of the uncertainty NOW, prices over the next few months will be EASY to negotiate.
It is a gamble, but a new car buyer might just end up ahead in all of this.
Dec 12, 2000 (3:42 pm)
Maybe if they use a shoehorn!
#398 of 12345 Olds' Demise
Dec 12, 2000 (3:47 pm)
Well, I guess this means there'll be no OSV???
Seriously, this is a sad day. GM gave Olds the toughest-possible task: appeal to "import intenders"...then, didn't give it nearly enough time to achieve the task. As marketing guru Al Trout said: "Minds don't change."
Perhaps if the Intrigue came out perfect from Job One, it would have helped, yielding a lot of positive word of mouth. It NEEDED to be perfect, but didn't come close to that ideal!
Even so, I've really enjoyed my '98 Intrigue the last three years. Recently, I've test-driven a lot of cars (some more vaunted and expensive) and can say it stacks up with the best of them!
#399 of 12345 Detroit News quote of the day...
Dec 12, 2000 (3:48 pm)
"They might as well (kill it), the way they're running it," said John Rock, a former Olds general manager.
Well said, Mr. Rock.