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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#7939 of 8984 Maxima reliability/quality
Feb 19, 2004 (5:47 pm)
I concur with kenm8, "It seems that there have been more difficulties reported on this message board on the next gen (2000 and later) than there were on the 95-99". I can testify as I own a 2003 Nissan Maxima with the dreaded COLD ENGINE RATTLE that is common with this car. It makes you question Nissan's reliability and quality and where they are headed.
Onto another subject, but closely related, one should consider how a car company’s customer service treats their customers. I wish there were a place you could rate a manufacturer’s customer service and then prospective buyers could review these ratings before buying their new car. I mean really get a “real” feeling for how they treat their customers. This would be especially useful when buying a car from a manufacturer with reliability and quality issues.
#7940 of 8984 COLD ENGINE RATTLE?
Feb 20, 2004 (4:53 am)
Could you please elobarate a bit more on this? Your post kind of makes it sound as this is well documented and on every Maxima.
I believe your post was the first I've seen on this topic.
#7941 of 8984 Re: COLD ENGINE RATTLE
Feb 20, 2004 (5:44 am)
Could you please elaborate a bit more on this?
Sure, if either of the following conditions is true:
1. Below 35-40 degrees and the engine is cold soaked (sat over night)
2. Below 45-50 degrees, the engine is cold soaked and has been idle for a couple of days (i.e. sat in the garage over the weekend)
At startup, the engine will make a loud rattle noise for about 1 to 2 seconds. According to Nissan, it's an oil pressure/lack of oil in the valve train that causes this noise and is common to this car. I have written proof I can share with you.
Your post kind of makes it sound as this is well documented and on every Maxima. I believe your post was the first I've seen on this topic
It's obviously well documented within Nissan, as the tech line knew it was “normal”. It may be the first time you heard it because it’s Edmunds.com, but check out Maxima.org and there you will find many discussions on this topic. Especially the thread I created after I found out about the problem. Trust me; I was as shocked as you are to experience this noise. I’ve had it happen on cold days before going out for lunch. It sounds nasty! I can’t imagine how much damage this is causing to my engine internally…
Feb 20, 2004 (1:33 pm)
I've had my 03 for 12 months/8500 miles, and I can honestly say I've never heard a noise like you're describing; I live in mid-Michigan, where it has been *cold* this winter.
When I first bought the car it did digest some oil, but after the first oil change the car's engine has been nothing but smooth. Would you be interested to know what brand of oil and oil filters my dealer uses? Maybe that's the issue, I'd be happy to call and find out.
Feb 20, 2004 (2:33 pm)
Well I think I found what might be the car i am looking for. It is a 97' Black on black leather, oh yeah its the SE trim. 65,000+, ABS, all that good stuff. What do you think this would go for int he ohio area, they are asking 7990, which seems decent to me.
Also if any giving person could run this VIN through car fax for me, I would appreciate it.
I would, but my account ran out a few days ago and I am not sure if I want to open another account yet.
Feb 20, 2004 (2:36 pm)
You will get very accurate advice from Terry(rroyce) in the "Real World Trade-In Values" board. Give as much detail as you can about the car. Is the car you looking at a manual or auto?
Feb 20, 2004 (2:38 pm)
Oh yeah I should have mentioned its an auto
Feb 20, 2004 (3:15 pm)
I'm glad to hear your 03 does not "rattle" at startup. I take my car to the dealership where I bought it for oil changes, so I would think they are using the correct oil and filter. Furthermore, Nissan tech line was contacted regarding this problem and they said it was normal.
Though, if you don't mind, I would like to know what your dealership uses? It may be a different filter for cold climates...
Thanks for your help, Tony
Feb 21, 2004 (5:42 am)
The "valve train noise" you describe is probably caused by oil starvation at startup. I've never experienced this on any of my Nissan's (95 GLE with 189k, 00 SE with 139k, or my 03 Murano) because I always switch to Mobile One 5-30 at 10,000 miles.
I believe the synthetic oil provides a better lubrication, especially at startup when the most engine wear occurs.
Of course, your mileage may vary........
Feb 21, 2004 (8:24 am)
It sounds like the car you want with decent mileage and a pretty good price. I did see a green '97 listed at $4999 at Coughlin Automotive in Newark, but no specs as to mileage, auto or stick, etc. I'm guessing it probably has pretty high mileage and may be a manual transmission. I say go for the one you know you want. Make sure you get it checked out as it's a 7-year old car.