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#7569 of 8972 200 miles by habitat1 Dec 05, 2003 (4:29 am)
Sorry bowke, I have to agree with p100, kyleknicks, lumbar and others who would advise against getting a "new" car with 200+ miles on the odometer. That's easily 20+ test drives of 8-10 miles a pop. You want to sell me a "demo", fine, but that's not a new car in my book.   And p100 makes another good point. Unless you get a car with 2-10 "delivery" miles on the odometer, you can never be sure that abuse did not occur during the break in period. This could lead to poorer gas mileage, shorter clutch life, etc. for which the warranty does not apply. When I bought a Honda S2000, I made absolutely sure that it had no test drive miles on it. The last thing I wanted was some 17 year old burning about 20% off the life of the clutch or missing shifts for even 5 miles, let alone 200. I might be less picky with an automatic Maxima, but not much so. Hell, even I was encouraged to "let it rip" by salespeople when I've test driven cars.   It behoves dealerships to specifically set aside their demonstrators and leave the "new" cars alone.
#7570 of 8972 habitat1 by kyleknicks Dec 05, 2003 (6:55 am)
but you see, for dealers, it's all about making a dollar... if they could use your car (before you bought it) to give free test drives and sell more cars, and not cost them a dime, they'll do it.. oh wait, who wouldnt? but..at least be honest about it and not try to sell it as brand spanking new car with no wear and tear whatsoever.. like i said, if you're the one agreed to getting a car from a diff dealer and they'll put miles just transporting it, well.. that's a diff story.. how it gets transported, it's your decision.   bowke are you a car dealer?
#7571 of 8972 kyleknicks... by bowke28 Dec 05, 2003 (9:49 am)
you are one of the only ones who doesnt know it!   the problem also, is that many people want to test drive THE EXACT CAR they want. in some cases, a deal is not struck, and the car sits. as a dealer, we cant help that. Replies to this message: capriccio (Dec 05, 2003 10:01 am)
#7572 of 8972 Maxima SE vs GLE (sports suspension) by capriccio Dec 05, 2003 (10:01 am)
Replying to: bowke28 (Dec 05, 2003 9:49 am) I am cosidering a purchase of a 2000 used vehicle (automatic). Any suggestions?   More specifically: Is there anybody who thinks that sports suspension on SE is rougher than they would like for their personal comfort? If somebody likes sports s better, your feedback is too appriciated. If somebody can explain what exactly is sports suspension and why some people may like better, please do.
#7573 of 8972 I have a 03 Max SE by perna Dec 05, 2003 (11:57 am)
I did test drive a GLE, and maybe I'm just deluding myself but I didn't feel a whole lot of difference (I drove the GLE and my SE on the same nasty Michigan-road test drive). It made so little difference to me I ended up picking the SE because I liked the color better (the same charcoal grey Porsche uses, my favorite color of any car I've owned).   My last car was an Olds Intrigue and it had a pretty cushy ride, but my Max SE is actually softer-sprung and handles crappy roads a LOT more gracefully. The GLE actually had a bit more body roll ripping through turns (yes, I "ripped" through turns, it's the only way to drive a Maxima lol). If I had to do it over again I'd buy the exact same car, no regrets.   As for people complaining about vibration, I notice it on my car when it's really cold (freezing or below) outside. Once the car gets going for about a mile or so the vibration goes away, leading me to believe it's the 17" tires. On Tirerack's site I've read similar complaints about the Bridgestones. I don't really mind it too much, I'm going to abuse the heck out of my tires next summer and then buy better, "long term" ones.   Did I mention I love my car? I think it's possible I'll be one of those nuts who, 20 years down the road, I'm on my 4th Maxima. It's just perfect in every way, I can't really ask anything more of a car.
#7574 of 8972 perna... by bowke28 Dec 05, 2003 (12:18 pm)
what part of michigan?
#7575 of 8972 dateline episode on stealerships by kyleknicks Dec 05, 2003 (10:26 pm)
anyone seen tonight's Dateline NBC's episode on the tricks dealerships play with people buying new cars?   it included tricking people into higher interest rates, decreasing someone's monthly payment amount but also by increasing the length of the loan...etc etc..   like they said, the only way to buy a new car, is to go to your credit union, get your loan pre-approved and then buy it the car at invoice + taxes, and no other fees..
#7576 of 8972 Dateline NBC by ocuihs Dec 06, 2003 (1:26 am)
Car sales: Tricks of the trade Click Here
#7577 of 8972 capriccio by dklanecky Dec 06, 2003 (5:11 am)
The 00 Maxima's GLE model shipped with 16" wheels and tires as standard equipment while the SE model shipped with 17" wheels and tires.   There's significantly more rubber between a GLE wheel and the road than on the SE wheel.   Most 2000 models available as used are probably ready for new tires anyhow so I'd focus on getting the right car in good condition regardless of particular model and then consider changing wheels/tires if the ride isn't what your looking for.   I have a 00 Maxima SE with the standard 17" wheel and tire package. It is definitely a rougher ride than the GLE model BUT it's mostly because of the wheel size.   I switch out the 17" wheels and tires every winter with a set of 16" wheels and snows for the winter and the ride definitely gets softer.
#7578 of 8972 kyleknicks... by bowke28 Dec 06, 2003 (6:52 am)
many of the things they talked about are things MOST buyers are familiar with in the first place. nowhere did i see where they "tricked" anyone into a higher interest rate. the rate is done on a cost/retail basis just like the car is. nothing new or sneaky about that.   aside from the obvious notion that there are crooks out there, they didnt show me much to get excited about...except the way they sensationalize things.

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