Last post on Nov 22, 2013 at 8:34 AM
You are in the Nissan Maxima
What is this discussion about?
Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#7500 of 8984 6 speed Maximas
Nov 12, 2003 (4:40 pm)
It appears that manual transmission vehicles in the US are disappearing fast:
Ford Explorer no longer offers manual transmission (did until 2002)
Nissan Pathfinder dropped the manual transmission option several years ago
Land Rover Discovery dropped the manual option
in the late nineties
Cannot get a manual on any full size American car or SUV anymore, and often manual transimssion on midsize and compact cars are only available with smaller base engines.
It is nice that Maxima and Infiniti G35 still offer manuals. However, now the manual transmission is a "no cost" option, which is nonsense becuase it costs less to make than an automatic transmission. It cost about $ 1000 less than an automatic in 1998. They must have learned this marketing trick from GM (Corvette).
Nov 12, 2003 (5:26 pm)
The 540i 6-speed was at least $1k more than a comparably equiped automatic.
I doubt the Maxima 6-speed transmission is any less expensive to produce than their dinosaur 4-speed auto and probably not even the newer 5-speed auto. An AMG high performance automatic or BMW SMG is a different matter. Nissan automatics are about as basic as they come to design and build.
#7502 of 8984 habitat1
Nov 13, 2003 (3:26 pm)
Actually the 2003 BMW 540i automatic and 540i 6 speed are priced the same with the same equipment. The $ 4100 sport package, optional on the automatic is standard on the 6 speed. If you get the 6 speed or the optional sport package, you must pay $ 1300 gaz guzzler gas. This is a truly great incentive for buying a manual transmission car. To be proportional, they should impose a $ 4,000 gaz guzzler on every monster SUV and full size pickup truck out there.
Just about every manufacturer charges more for an auto transmission, if manual is offered as standard equipment. If it cost less to produce an automatic, then everybody would charge extra for a manual transmission.
Nov 13, 2003 (3:56 pm)
I guess I agree, however, I think BMW's steptronic and especially AMG's "sport shift" automatic are in a different league than Nissan's automatics. I just can't imagine there being much of a cost difference to Nissan between their automatics and the 6 speed manual transmission they put in the Maxima.
On another point, I owe you much thanks for the hood strut recommendation a few weeks ago. It took me three trips to two different AutoZones, but I now have a hood that will stay open. I did say I'd send you a bottle of wine or some such equivalent, so e-mail me at habitaterols.com with your address if you want to collect. A deal is a deal!
Nov 13, 2003 (11:25 pm)
automatics are way more complex than manual trannies and also have the over head of needing complex electronics as well.
my guess is sticks are cheaper to make.
Nov 14, 2003 (6:33 am)
transmissions are completely different. BMW's is basically a computer controlled manual transmission. The AMG is an automatic transmission that allows more driver input. Nissan's auto is more similar to the AMG model than the BMW.
Nov 14, 2003 (7:03 am)
BMW's SMG (Sequential Manual Gearbox) is a manual transmission. There is no torque converter, etc. It is purely a manual transmission (without the clutch pedal, which is automated). This is a very expensive manual transmission (costing $2,400 more than the regular M3 manual transmission, which in itself is quite expensive - certainly more expensive than most domestic auto transmissions).
It is unfair to say that all automatics cost more than manual transmissions - in fact there are some very expensive manual transmissions out there.
Nov 14, 2003 (3:34 pm)
and the SMG is available on HOW MANY CARS? 3?
#7508 of 8984 SMG and the Sky Roof
Nov 14, 2003 (3:38 pm)
I thought I just read that the SMG is now available on the Sport Package-equipped 330i, FWIW.
Forgive me for sounding naive or lazy here, but anyone care to share their opinions on the Sky Roof thing? I'm sure there are numerous posts here somewhere regarding same, but I haven't found them. I don't even know how this thing works; I'm assuming they either don't open at all, or they must open sideways? If so, do they open independently or together?
#7509 of 8984 sky roof on 04 Maxima
Nov 14, 2003 (5:46 pm)
To my knowledge these panels do not open (are fixed). Each panel has a separate manual sunshade on the inside which can be opened or closed.
I would be concerned about potential water leaks if the panels are not sealed properly.