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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#7134 of 8984 sgrd0q , ramped1, thegreatvudini
Jul 16, 2003 (2:58 pm)
Regarding 4-cylinder Honda engines, my mechanic said they are the best in the business - better than Nissan's or Toyota's 4 cylinders. However, he still thought a 6 cylinder in a 3,200+/- pound sedan is a better match if you plan on going over 100k miles. The Honda Accords of yesteryear weighed substantially less than they do today.
On the "upscale" issue, I'm the first to acknowledge that my 1995 Maxima isn't a BMW 530i. But it had a lot more interior quality than the 1995 Accord or Camry. The 1995 626 wasn't even close. Check little things like the headliner, center console, etc. Frankly, for it's day it was a notch up from the current G35.
Regarding Mazda 6, I shouldn't be critical of a car that I've never driven, so I won't. But my criticism of Mazda as a manufacturer is based upon the assumption that if they were such good long term cars, they wouldn't have "give away" resale values after only 3-4 years.
Jul 16, 2003 (4:14 pm)
My Honda's 4 cylinder (1.5 L , 2400 lb 94 Civic coupe) blew a head gasket right around the 100K mark. Wasnt too happy.
I havent sworn off Hondas, but I wouldnt say they are better than Nissan/Toyota.
Jul 16, 2003 (4:57 pm)
You are correct in that Mazda's depreciate like crazy, but then again Nissans aren't so hot in that respect, either.
As a matter of fact, I drove my RX-7 for five years, paid over $1K over list, and still got 50 percent of my investment back when I traded. The reason, of course, is that the public appreciated what a great car the RX-7 was. It never needed a rebate until it became ridiculously overpriced in the early '90s.
That is the key to resale value. Like stocks, cars are only worth what the public will pay. All of the Japanese imports are good reliable cars, but the public at large has identified Honda and Toyota as those they trust to buy used, hence the large resale on those models. That's why when I buy a used Japanese car, I steer clear of the Hondas. I know I can get quality and reliablity with Nissan, Mazda or Subaru at a discount.
#7137 of 8984 comparison among Japanese name plates
Jul 16, 2003 (5:08 pm)
IMHO, comparing reliability among Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubisha, Mazda etc. based purely on nameplates may be misleading and inaccurate. Because each manufacturer has many cars in its lineup, comparing an inexpensive car made by one manufacturer to a flagship car made by another may be akin to comparing apples and oranges.
In addition, if you compare an SUV against a sedan, or a 4-cylinder against a 6-cylinder, you are talking about different classes of vehicles that cannot and should be be compared.
Sometimes, generalization may lead to futile or unproductive analysis and/or argument.
#7138 of 8984 kennyg5
Jul 16, 2003 (5:31 pm)
You are right in stating that not all Mazdas depreciate the same. RX7s and Miatas have always maintained much better resale value than 626s. Proteges and 626s seem to depreciate the worst within the Mazda lineup.
What really annoys me is that my 626 is top of the line ES model which cost over $ 4k more than a 4 cyl 626 LX, but nobody seems to even notice when I try to sell the car or trade it in. Even on E bay, people bid ridiculously low on used Mazda 626s.
Jul 16, 2003 (5:42 pm)
I can appreciate your frustration about the 626 which is relatively new (99) when compared to my old Maxima (92) that I sold ten months ago. My old Max, which had about 75k miles but was in very good condition, fetched a sale price (to a private party) of $4k. I believe the Max has built a good name for itself and has a good following, and that has a lot to do with the resale value.
#7140 of 8984 ramped1, p100, kennyg5,et al
Jul 17, 2003 (12:25 am)
"All of the Japanese imports are good reliable cars"?
That is not my personal reality. I had an early Acura Integra that took me to the cleaners after about 80k miles. But that my one bad experience does not make Acura a bad brand.
In my research back in 1994 before buying my Maxima, I concluded that the Maxima (with its V6) was equal in quality and reliability to the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord as evidenced by Consumer Reports, the various other car publications and every friend, relative and car mechanic that I questioned. As I recall, the Mazda 626 was not well regarded and considered well below the gold standard for Japanese manufacturers.
I do agree with ramped1 that there are market anomolies with respect to resale values. In spite of being rated highly, even in 1995 I could see that the Maxima would not likely retain quite as much of it's original price in resale value as the Accord or Camry. But I bought what I believed to be an equally high quality and superior "driving" car, figuring that I would keep it for at least 6-7 years and 100k+ miles, after which resale doesn't matter much. Now at 9 years and 142k miles, I can comfortably say that I made the right decision. For others that are considering the 95-99 4th generation Maxima as a used car, lower resale values may make it one of the best price/quality values out there.
kennyg5 hit on another reason for resale value disparity: the Maxima, Civic and Accord / Corolla and Camry have been around a long time and have earned "sustained" market respect. Relatively low volume RX-7 and Miata specialty cars aside, Mazda has never achieved that level of success and respect with a mainstream model. It seems that they drop, redesign and rebadge sedan models more frequently than the Honda, Toyota or even Nissan.
#7141 of 8984 Tire replacement for 2001 model
Jul 18, 2003 (10:12 am)
I have maxima 2001 model and this car have 45,000 mile in it. I don't know what kind of tires I have to use aside from tire that come up with the car when I bought it. I want to replace it with reasonable prices. Please help me, thanks Jay
#7142 of 8984 Mazda/Trade-in
Jul 18, 2003 (4:26 pm)
Purchased 02 SE a year and a half ago and attempted to trade in my then 93 Mazda 626 ES V6 5sp. It had 170,000 miles on it and about 20K miles on the 1st clutch replacement. Kelly Blue Book said I should have gotten about $2300 for the trade in. The dealer offered $500. I had $600 in new tires on it. I just donated it to DC's Children's Hospital and took the tax break.
#7143 of 8984 aggiedog
Jul 18, 2003 (5:48 pm)
The Kelly Blue book on my 99 Mazda 626 ES V6 is $ 6700. They offered me $ 4500. The car is in showroom condition inside and out. I do not have much luck selling the car privately because everybody seems to want an automatic. Which is strange, because most 4 cylinder Mazda 626s built after 1990 have one of the worst auto transmissions ever put in a passenger car - it is a Ford Tempo transmission. These transmissions rarely lasted past 40K miles on 92-96 4 cyl 626s. I have a feeling that the low resale value of Mazda 626 has a lot to do with this transmission.