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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
Jul 09, 2003 (3:51 pm)
I suggest you take your legs, rear and rest of your torso over to the Nissan dealer to try some used Maxima seats yourself. I have a 1995 SE and can live with the seats. They were bettter than the comparable Camry or Accord seats back in 1995. But all Maxima seats are a far far cry from BMW's 5 series sports seats or Volvo's seats. Those are the top of the line given my body shape and support preferences. Now that I have back problems, seats will also be a high priority in my next sedan purchase. This is one area that most Japanese manufacturers seem to fall short of the European competition.
Jul 10, 2003 (5:47 am)
You are so right. The Japanese make a great car, but don't have any idea of making a comfortable seat (at least for my build). I tried the seat in 02 Max SE and definitely found it both comfortable and supportive. Now, it's just a matter of waiting for the 02 leases to expire. Meantime, I will keep driving with a rolled up towel under my legs (nice look with leather seats)...
Jul 10, 2003 (7:45 am)
2004 Maxima = Japanese Cadillac..ughhhhhhh
Jul 10, 2003 (8:33 am)
If you like the Camry you'd be better off throwing in some aftermarket seats than taking the depreciation hit on selling it and buying another newer car that'll depreciate again. Do some research on aftermaket seats, you'll be surprised at what's out there. Then again a Max kicks a$$ over a Camry so maybe dump it anyway. Hey, it is a Maxima board
Jul 10, 2003 (10:32 am)
I did check into aftermarket seats, liked the Flofits, but was told that the only seats with power adjustments were Recaro's (not cheap). Call me crazy, but I thought Recaro's in a Camry looked pretty silly. By the time I get to my break even point, the 02 SE's should be coming off lease, so maybe I can still get lucky...
Jul 12, 2003 (5:15 pm)
I was in my dealer to pick up a part for my 1995 Maxima and took the opportunity to give the 2004 a closer inspection. I have to say that either I'm old fashioned, or Nissan has gone schizo with interior design since the 1995 (or at least since 1999). My 1995 SE is no BMW 5-series or Audi A6, but the interior looks and lines are clean and the materials reasonably high quality.
The new Maxima's dash board is big enough to have Thanksgiving dinner on it and nothing "flows". Every piece and component of the interior: dash, console, instrument cluster, center stack, etc. looks like it was designed by a different committee and manufactured at a different factory. And whoever previously mentioned the interior door material had it right on. A little glow in the dark paint on the doors will turn them into velvet paintings that looked ugly in 1970's fraternity house movies. Back 9 years ago, the interior of my 1995 Maxima got compliments from friends and associates who drove considerably more expensive cars (mostly BMW's and Mercedes). The 2004 would likely invoke laughs. Or worse.
Thankfully, I was able to obtain and install a $45 blower "resistor" to restore my air conditioning fan to normal operation (it had worked on full speed, but no reduced speeds). I have pledged that with 142k miles on it, I am not going to let my 1995 Maxima nickel and dime me to death the way my old Acura did. However, after seeing the interiors of the new Maxima and Infiniti G35 sedan, I'm beginning to think my 1995 Maxima is worth a few more nickels and dimes. I will be concurrently praying that BMW's new 5-series isn't adversely influenced by the schizo movement.
P.S. There was a dealer advertisement in today's Washington Post offering new 2004 Maxima's starting at $23,799 (not "hail damaged" cars, those were even less). I believe that is a few thousand less than MSRP, so it doesn't appear that the general public is taking to the new Maxima with much enthusiasm either.
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Jul 12, 2003 (8:22 pm)
Your description of the 2004 is interesting. I own a 98 SE and I too believe Nissan took a wrong turn somewhere with their designs lately.
I also own a 95 SE V6 4X4 Nissan pickup and will probably own it for a long time. I can't stand the look of the new pickups with cheap plastic gray bumpers with the fake rivets in them. The ones with bumpers painted the body color are at least reasonable looking, but the gray ones are cheap and shoddy looking directly from the factory. And they fade in the sun rapidly. I saw a left over brand new 2002 Xterra the other day on the dealer's lot and its front gray plastic bumper was faded badly from the sun already and it looked like it was 10 years old.
There are some of us who are not impressed with extreme styling, especially if the "extreme look" is achieved by using cheap looking materials.
Jul 13, 2003 (4:55 am)
I hope your 1998 SE is holding up as well as my 1995 SE has (knock on wood).
I think "extreme" is an apt way of describing the direction Nissan has taken with vehicle / interior design. Again, not to age myself, but back in 1995, the Maxima fit nicely on the continuum between less expensive cars like the Accord and Camry and the more expensive BMW and Mercedes offerings. And it generally looked the part, especially the interior. Many of my then 30-something friends and associates who owned 3rd and 4th generation Maximas graduated into 5-series and E-classes.
The "need" for constant redesigns when you essentially have something that works isn't apparant to me. Refinement and evolution are one thing. But abandoning the family tree and going mutant is another. Now, rather than be a nice midpoint between a Honda Accord and a 530i, the Maxima looks like it was infected by some garish GM/Pontiac stains in its DNA.
I believe time will prove our respective 4th generation Maxima's to have been the peak of Nissan's success with the model. Certainly the peak of respect. Adding 75 horsepower to a FWD platform and shaving a miniscule 0.3 seconds off the 0-60 time since 1995 isn't enough to overcome the "de-volution" of the interior design and material quality.
Jul 14, 2003 (3:15 am)
Well that proves that new Max's popularity isnt as good as one might think.
I heard Nissan's also targetting for fewer sales than '03 models, not sure whether its true or not though
Habitat1, where is the dealer youre talking about? In what area? Just wondering since I havent given up my hope yet to get a nice Onyx or Red '04 max
Jul 14, 2003 (7:14 am)
I bought my 1995 Maxima from VOB Nissan in Rockville, MD. I have been generally pleased with the customer service since.
Interestingly, they had many 2004 Maxima's in stock and pushed me to take one for a test drive. When I asked for a SE 6-speed, they didn't have any and indicated that those versions will be produced in even lower volume/percentages than the outgoing 2003 due to "limited demand". If that is the case, either the "sport sedan" market is shrinking (doubtful) or the Maxima has become less appealing to those buyers (more likely).
This morning my wife asked me what I would replace our Maxima with if it were crushed by a tree tomorrow. (A distant neighbor's old BMW suffered this fate a week ago). I was unable to immediately respond. A 530i sport is my first choice, but it's $43k+/- and going through a model changeover. The $38k 330i is a bit tight for our family. In the $30k price range, the G35 sedan may be a decent choice, but I am not a fan of it's looks, inside or out. The Acura TLS is dated and boring - and besides, I don't know how to drive a so called sport sedan equiped with an automatic transmission. There is almost nothing that pops out in the $25k price range that wouldn't feel like a performance and/or quality downgrade compared to our 9 year old Maxima.
Needless to say, I'm not parking under any trees in a storm.