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#6984 of 8972 option package by p100 Jun 13, 2003 (7:34 pm)
In my opinion Nissan went way overboard with the option list on the 04 Maxima. How many people will order an SE with an elite package which retails for over $ 6000? And this does not even include the electric sunroof, which is additional $ 900! A fully loaded SE sticker price will be approaching $ 37K which is way high for a mid size family oriented sport sedan. What will hurt really bad is the resale value. The most logical buy would be a base SE, in my opinion, which retails for around $ 28K. This is still not cheap. Recently I visited my local Mercedes dealership and they offered to sell me a new C 320 coupe for $ 25K!!!! Yes, this was a base car with a 6 speed manual, but with a 3.2 liter V6 engine (same as E320), rear wheel drive and standard MB equipment. I bet the resale on that one will be a lot better than on the base Max SE. And you would have to try hard to buy a new 04 Max for $ 25K. And as I mentioned before in this forum, I had a chance to buy a new Infiniti M45 for $ 37K. No way I would buy a Maxima for that because these cars cannot be compared. A 340 HP rear wheel drive Japanese large sedan does not fit into the Maxima category.
#6985 of 8972 Turning Radius by bksward Jun 13, 2003 (8:24 pm)
To minimize the measurement, some auto makers measure from the circle made by the front tires. Unfortunately, the car doesn't end at the front tires but at the front bumpers. A more accurate measure--one that Consumer Reports uses, I believe--measures from the front bumper. Thus, CR reports the '04 SE turning radius at 44 feet, while the auto magazines, taking the figures from the manufacturer, report 40 feet, I believe.   But in many practical cases it is the tires that cause the problem. Most of the time the front bumper will clear the curb, so when making a U-turn its the wheels that matter most of the time.   Now on a lower car with a more pronounced front air dam, that wouldn't be the case...
#6986 of 8972 Not worth the money by m4d_cow Jun 13, 2003 (11:30 pm)
As far as i see, the Maxima is trying to compete with the class it shouldnt be dealing with. Besides the Maxima i also test drove the Audi A6 3.0 pretty much almost fully loaded (the only option left is the nav). The handling isnt far different from Maxima, in fact i think its still better. The most shocking part is the dealer is willing to sell the car for $40k, which includes WA tax (7.9%) and lisence and other fees, including delivery to my home (which is around 70 miles from dealer)! When i see this kind of offer im starting to think Nissan is pushing Maxima too far, since an almost fully loaded SE w/o elite package already cost around $34k for retail (incl tax), and to me the only advantages this car have over A6 is its powerful engine and its very cool styling (personal taste of course). And lets face it, A6 is a far better built car compared to Max, and looking at the price its obvious who the winner is. If the Maximas price is still in the same class as Accord and Camry i would definetely consider buying it, but right now its just not worth the money
#6987 of 8972 One more thing by m4d_cow Jun 13, 2003 (11:38 pm)
One more thing that also bothers me, is the Infiniti G35's aluminum real, or is it just the same as Nissan's ( aka aluminum colored plastic)?
#6988 of 8972 I feel taken by rmurphy197 Jun 14, 2003 (6:02 am)
I've had my '03 Maxima for less than a month, and boy, do I regret my choice of car. I did the research before hand, looking at the reviews but I obviously didn't look far enough. As soon as I owned the car, it seems the police blotter in my local paper is filled with nothing but Maxima Headlight thefts. I now own a car that I can't take anywhere! The local suburban mall reported the theft of 6 pairs of headlights last weekend alone! Is Nissan doing anything about the problem??? The sensors they now have available are a joke; the cars with the sensors are still losing their lights. I should have gone with my second choice, the Accord EX. Is there any hope for my Maxima???
#6989 of 8972 2004 Maxima pricing/positioning by habitat1 Jun 14, 2003 (6:40 am)
I have to agree with the many above who are questioning Nissan's move with the 2004 Maxima.   It appears to me that Nissan took a very competitive $25k+/- FWD sport sedan and turned it into a $30k+ FWD less sporty sedan. At the time I bought my 1995 SE, the Maxima blew away all competitively priced competition from Honda (Accord EX), Toyota (Camry XLE), VW (Passat), etc. It was priced well below the next level of RWD competition - i.e. the 328i/528i.   I think that market segment today is still ripe for the taking. The Honda Accord is pretty ugly and doesn't offer a 6-speed in the sedan, the Camry is as much of a grandmother's car as ever, etc. Unfortunately, it appears that Nissan is counting on the Altima to do that job - which is a big step down in interior quality and ergonomics even from my 1995 Maxima.   At $30k+, the Maxima is not enough of a bargain to keep me from pursuing a 3 or 5 series, both of which offer less "paper" horsepower, but a hell of a lot more in real performance and build quality. And frankly, I'm not sure why anyone would buy a $32k Maxima over a similarly priced RWD Infiniti G35 sedan.   It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. The only decent selling new entries in the entire Infiniti and Nissan line-up seem to be the G35 and 350Z, niether of which would get my dollars today.
#6990 of 8972 03 vs. 04 Max by kennyg5 Jun 14, 2003 (7:02 am)
I purchased my 03 Max about eight months ago and I am happy with it. I paid about $3500 off MSRP and thought it was a decent deal. Since then the 03 has discounted even more (about $4800 off MSRP) to make room for the 04. I guess the leftover 03s that were sold within the last couple months probably did not have much choice as to color and option. Now, the dealers near me no longer have any 03s.   I am not thrilled about the exterior style of the O4. I think Nissan is trying to create a hybrid between the Altima and the Z, but the resulting style is not really for a sporty family sedan. Personally I like the 3rd and 5th generation styles (call me conservative). I also do not like the 04 interior. The aluminum-plastic may look futuristic and high tech, but does not give you a sense of luxury. I prefer the wood trim, even though it is not genuine wood. The dash is also busy looking with too many small buttons. The 03 dash is better designed and user friendly.   I agree that the 04 MSRP is overpriced in that many of the more traditional Max buyers may be priced out. The dealer nearest to me is offering 04s at $500 t0 $800 over invoice, not MSRP.   Theft of HIDs, as I understand, are not unique only to the 02 and 03 Max. I also heard horror stories about the Acura TLs. The TL HIDs fit easily on the less expensive Accords, and many of the TL board members are very unhappy about this.
#6991 of 8972 by sgrd0q Jun 14, 2003 (7:38 am)
kennyg5 - you made a good point!   I think Nissan should have designed the front headlights so that they don't fit on any previous model. The demand for the HID lights would have been minimal then, and so would have been the theft rate.   Honda did something similar with the new RSX (the replacement of the Integra). The engine of the RSX now turns in the opposite direction and no longer fits into the Civic. The Integra's theft rate is very high, because there is a demand for the engine from Civic owners.
#6992 of 8972 Is this a good price for an '03 Max SE by shaha90 Jun 14, 2003 (6:04 pm)
Hi, I'm looking to purchase a '03 Maxima SE loaded (Titanium, Leather, meridian, subroof, traction control. etc.) It a demo model w/ 6k mile and I've been quotes $24,599. Is this a good price. I have it for 24hrs. to test drive and would value others input as to the price being offered. thanks you for the input
#6993 of 8972 shaba90 by kennyg5 Jun 14, 2003 (6:19 pm)
I believe the MSRP of a loaded 03 SE is slightly over 30k. The price quoted for your test car would be great if it is a brand new car with less than 20 miles. (Mine had less than 10 miles on it when I took delivery.) However, since it is a demo (and knowing how demos are usually driven), the quoted price is only "so so" to me. If you can get a brand new 03 Max at $25k (although it may not come in your color), I think paying an extra $500 for a "virgin" would give you much better peace of mind. JMHO.

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