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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#6979 of 8984 berber, sail
Jun 13, 2003 (8:47 am)
You both are singing a song that Nissan should have expected after its ill-advised decision to move the Maxima "upscale."
This car has regrettably morphed from a powerful, tossable and affordable family sports sedan that was an easy choice for an enthusiast on a budget into a rather ungainly and low-rent entry-luxo wannabe. It is not even close to a bang-for-the-buck value anymore.
I simply don't understand how Nissan expects this car to compete in the low-to-mid $30s price range against Acura, Infiniti, Audi and Lexus. And let's not even bring up BMW or Mercedes, who offer models in the Max's price range. All of those manufactures hold their resale far better than the Maxima will.
It is inevitable that Nissan is going to have to start rebates to move it or risk losing sales to the entry-luxos. Honda generally does a good job of keeping the Accord V-6 EX below the Acura TL price range. Nissan should have kept the Maxima under the Infiniti 35s.
I love my old Max SE (circa 1992), but today the car that most resembles the one I drive is the Mazda 6s, not the Maxima.
Jun 13, 2003 (8:52 am)
Sorry about messing up your screen name in the post above. We're moving. I guess I'm thinking too much about carpets
Jun 13, 2003 (2:49 pm)
For the record, Toyota also forces you to buy options on there hi-end cars/trucks. For instance, to get the rear dvd entertainment package you must also select a sunroof. Most people may want both but what if you don't? They try to make money any way they can.
Jun 13, 2003 (3:42 pm)
sailoverfuel - Around here, the G35 is going for a few hundred over invoice, not sticker. And the IS300 goes for about $800 under invoice.
Jun 13, 2003 (4:49 pm)
with regards to options, the only company that DOESNT bundle is Honda. Nissan is not unique.
#6984 of 8984 option package
Jun 13, 2003 (7:34 pm)
In my opinion Nissan went way overboard with the option list on the 04 Maxima. How many people will order an SE with an elite package which retails for over $ 6000? And this does not even include the electric sunroof, which is additional $ 900! A fully loaded SE sticker price will be approaching $ 37K which is way high for a mid size family oriented sport sedan. What will hurt really bad is the resale value. The most logical buy would be a base SE, in my opinion, which retails for around $ 28K. This is still not cheap. Recently I visited my local Mercedes dealership and they offered to sell me a new C 320 coupe for $ 25K!!!! Yes, this was a base car with a 6 speed manual, but with a 3.2 liter V6 engine (same as E320), rear wheel drive and standard MB equipment. I bet the resale on that one will be a lot better than on the base Max SE. And you would have to try hard to buy a new 04 Max for $ 25K.
And as I mentioned before in this forum, I had a chance to buy a new Infiniti M45 for $ 37K. No way I would buy a Maxima for that because these cars cannot be compared. A 340 HP rear wheel drive Japanese large sedan does not fit into the Maxima category.
#6985 of 8984 Turning Radius
Jun 13, 2003 (8:24 pm)
To minimize the measurement, some auto makers measure from the circle made by the front tires. Unfortunately, the car doesn't end at the front tires but at the front bumpers. A more accurate measure--one that Consumer Reports uses, I believe--measures from the front bumper. Thus, CR reports the '04 SE turning radius at 44 feet, while the auto magazines, taking the figures from the manufacturer, report 40 feet, I believe.
But in many practical cases it is the tires that cause the problem. Most of the time the front bumper will clear the curb, so when making a U-turn its the wheels that matter most of the time.
Now on a lower car with a more pronounced front air dam, that wouldn't be the case...
#6986 of 8984 Not worth the money
Jun 13, 2003 (11:30 pm)
As far as i see, the Maxima is trying to compete with the class it shouldnt be dealing with. Besides the Maxima i also test drove the Audi A6 3.0 pretty much almost fully loaded (the only option left is the nav). The handling isnt far different from Maxima, in fact i think its still better. The most shocking part is the dealer is willing to sell the car for $40k, which includes WA tax (7.9%) and lisence and other fees, including delivery to my home (which is around 70 miles from dealer)!
When i see this kind of offer im starting to think Nissan is pushing Maxima too far, since an almost fully loaded SE w/o elite package already cost around $34k for retail (incl tax), and to me the only advantages this car have over A6 is its powerful engine and its very cool styling (personal taste of course).
And lets face it, A6 is a far better built car compared to Max, and looking at the price its obvious who the winner is. If the Maximas price is still in the same class as Accord and Camry i would definetely consider buying it, but right now its just not worth the money
#6987 of 8984 One more thing
Jun 13, 2003 (11:38 pm)
One more thing that also bothers me, is the Infiniti G35's aluminum real, or is it just the same as Nissan's ( aka aluminum colored plastic)?
Jun 14, 2003 (6:02 am)
I've had my '03 Maxima for less than a month, and boy, do I regret my choice of car. I did the research before hand, looking at the reviews but I obviously didn't look far enough. As soon as I owned the car, it seems the police blotter in my local paper is filled with nothing but Maxima Headlight thefts. I now own a car that I can't take anywhere! The local suburban mall reported the theft of 6 pairs of headlights last weekend alone! Is Nissan doing anything about the problem??? The sensors they now have available are a joke; the cars with the sensors are still losing their lights. I should have gone with my second choice, the Accord EX. Is there any hope for my Maxima???