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#6975 of 8972 Re: jg28 by monte4 Jun 12, 2003 (4:39 pm)
Turning Radius Specs   4th Gen 15": 34.8' 4th Gen 16": 34.8' -- 5th Gen 15": 35.4' 5th Gen 16": 35.4' 5th Gen 17": 40.0' -- 6th Gen 17": 40.0' 6th Gen 18": 40.0'   Source: www.nissannews.com <~~ no refuting this source
#6976 of 8972 Dissapointed by sailoverfuel Jun 13, 2003 (4:29 am)
I recently had the opportunity to go for a long test drive on the new 2004 Maxima SE with leather, sunroof, nav...the works.   It;s pretty obvious that the car is decent and quick. Nevertheless, it is nothing big compared to my 2002 max with the same feautures (less nav). The new design lacks in detail as far as the interior is concerned. The doors do not have leather (as older models do). The material (cheap) runs all the way forward into the dash. The panel is plastic (regardless of what these salespeaple say about it being "aluminum" and it looks cheap.   I was excited at the prospect of getting a new one but the interiors did not live up to the exoectations.   THE CAR IS NOT REALLY FASTER THAT THE PREVOUS MODEL. YES TECHNMICALLY IT HAS 10 MORE HORSEPOWER BUT IT IS ALSO HEAVIER AND IT DOES NOT ADD ANYTHING IN REAL DRIVING EXPERIENCE.   Also, the front PLASTIC grill sucks and will break if rocks smack it at high speeds.   I will go for a TSX, G35 (they go for few hundre over sticker basically) or IS 300 (also go for sticker) before I buy this cheap looking car.
#6977 of 8972 Push sales by sailoverfuel Jun 13, 2003 (4:37 am)
I forgot to add that the sales experience in most Nissan dealerships leaves nothing to desire.   As I said, I have an 02 Max and before that an X-Terra. So I do like Nissan but the people behind the cars are not great.   After visiting Acura, Honda and Lexus to see the obvious models that compete with the 04 Max I was happy to find superior attitude in most if not all other delaerships.   For the money they ask me to pay for a Max 04 I can get an IS 300 w/ Nav, a G35 with Nv (for 2K more becai=use they sell so close to sticker) or save some money and do a TSX with ALL the works...I may throw in a wood steering weel, bike rack, and a few other toys and still save some bucks. The TSX may not have the HP of the MX but they DO drive nice.
#6978 of 8972 Attn: sailoverfuel by berbel Jun 13, 2003 (7:26 am)
I'm still on this board because I like the Maxima, at least I DID like the Maxima. On Monday, I'm taking delivery of an '03 Accord EX-V6 loaded with the addition of 2300.00 worth of accessories. The car came in $29,000.00 retail.   My '00 Max SE is being traded, reluctantly, on the Honda. My first choice was a new Max until I saw the interior with all the "trendy" satin metal that reminds me of other trends such as nehru collars and polyester suits. What's worse is Nissan's new pricing policy regarding their option packages.... i.e., being forced to buy options you don't need or want in order to get options that you do want. That is totally absurd. No other company (of which I'm aware) imposes this "let's gouge the customer so our bottom line increases" policy on its buyers.   My dealer couldn't find an '03 equipped the way I wanted it either so I had no choice but to "leave the flock." I'm already having some degree of buyer remorse but I choose to think of the EX V-6 as a Maxima on a somewhat shorter wheelbase.   I've been here since 2000 and I'm going to stick around for the hell of it. This board has a lot of great posters on it and has been a source of good helpful info, amusement and congeniality. Fact of the matter is that I'm still a Max driver at heart!   berbel
#6979 of 8972 berber, sail by ramped1 Jun 13, 2003 (8:47 am)
You both are singing a song that Nissan should have expected after its ill-advised decision to move the Maxima "upscale."   This car has regrettably morphed from a powerful, tossable and affordable family sports sedan that was an easy choice for an enthusiast on a budget into a rather ungainly and low-rent entry-luxo wannabe. It is not even close to a bang-for-the-buck value anymore.   I simply don't understand how Nissan expects this car to compete in the low-to-mid $30s price range against Acura, Infiniti, Audi and Lexus. And let's not even bring up BMW or Mercedes, who offer models in the Max's price range. All of those manufactures hold their resale far better than the Maxima will.   It is inevitable that Nissan is going to have to start rebates to move it or risk losing sales to the entry-luxos. Honda generally does a good job of keeping the Accord V-6 EX below the Acura TL price range. Nissan should have kept the Maxima under the Infiniti 35s.   I love my old Max SE (circa 1992), but today the car that most resembles the one I drive is the Mazda 6s, not the Maxima.
#6980 of 8972 berbel by ramped1 Jun 13, 2003 (8:52 am)
Sorry about messing up your screen name in the post above. We're moving. I guess I'm thinking too much about carpets
#6981 of 8972 berbel by aggiedog Jun 13, 2003 (2:49 pm)
For the record, Toyota also forces you to buy options on there hi-end cars/trucks. For instance, to get the rear dvd entertainment package you must also select a sunroof. Most people may want both but what if you don't? They try to make money any way they can.
#6982 of 8972 by fredmcmurray Jun 13, 2003 (3:42 pm)
sailoverfuel - Around here, the G35 is going for a few hundred over invoice, not sticker. And the IS300 goes for about $800 under invoice.
#6983 of 8972 berbel by alpha01 Jun 13, 2003 (4:49 pm)
with regards to options, the only company that DOESNT bundle is Honda. Nissan is not unique.   ~alpha
#6984 of 8972 option package by p100 Jun 13, 2003 (7:34 pm)
In my opinion Nissan went way overboard with the option list on the 04 Maxima. How many people will order an SE with an elite package which retails for over $ 6000? And this does not even include the electric sunroof, which is additional $ 900! A fully loaded SE sticker price will be approaching $ 37K which is way high for a mid size family oriented sport sedan. What will hurt really bad is the resale value. The most logical buy would be a base SE, in my opinion, which retails for around $ 28K. This is still not cheap. Recently I visited my local Mercedes dealership and they offered to sell me a new C 320 coupe for $ 25K!!!! Yes, this was a base car with a 6 speed manual, but with a 3.2 liter V6 engine (same as E320), rear wheel drive and standard MB equipment. I bet the resale on that one will be a lot better than on the base Max SE. And you would have to try hard to buy a new 04 Max for $ 25K. And as I mentioned before in this forum, I had a chance to buy a new Infiniti M45 for $ 37K. No way I would buy a Maxima for that because these cars cannot be compared. A 340 HP rear wheel drive Japanese large sedan does not fit into the Maxima category.

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