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You are in the Nissan Maxima
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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
Mar 09, 2003 (5:35 am)
The sticker on the car your looking at loaded SE less Traction control, Nav, and Meridian, is (should be) $29,784 with an invoice of $26,752. I believe there is also a $1000 rebate on the Maxima taking your invoice down to $25,752. (The dealer is still making the holdback money of 3%.)
I think if you go back over this board for a few weeks you'll see practically no one is paying even invoice, they're all below.
For reference (and maybe getting a much better deal) go to carmax.com, and search for a Maxima SE with the same sticker price and see what they'll charge you for it (with a no haggle policy).
They only have Nissan stores in Greenville and Washington DC but you can still use their pricing as leverage to make a better deal with your local dealer.
Example from Greenville Carmax stock #1660059:
2003 SE MSRP $28,344 selling today at $24,148.
You should take a long test drive over the same road with both the SE and the GLE. The SE has a much firmer ride than the GLE which some people (like me) like and some find too harsh.
IMO, the Maxima is way more car than the Mazada and you'll most likely agree with that statement after you've had yours for a couple of hundred thousand miles!
They're awesome vehicles and great deals are out there right now as the body style, design, and manufacturing plant is changing for the 2004's.
#6481 of 8984 thanks, dklanecky
Mar 09, 2003 (10:43 am)
Yeah I had read the last 6 months of posts so I knew there were deals out there. Thanks for the heads up on the carmax, I had looked at there site before, (they have a store in San Antone and a couple in Houston and Dallas) but EVERYTHING on their site and lots was almost exactly $1500 higher than a comparably equipped car at any dealer within 200 miles. Using this site I came up with $30221 MSRP, $27429 invoice, I guess the difference would be transportation to a different zip code? I tried Abilene, Austin and Houston zips and came with the same numbers. Anyway we're all happy, might not have been the cheapest but I refuse to sell to customers when they act like complete butt heads, and I felt that everyone I talked to at every dealer I visited was BSing us. BTW, we're not kids, we're in our 50s, do please don't treat us like we just got off the boat.
BTW, I made the deal with the guy in Abilene. It has less than 4K miles, Titanium exterior, dark leather seats, $22500 cash, he's about $90 upside down so have to send (wire?) money bank-to-bank to get the released title, do that on Monday.
Thanks again for your help.
#6482 of 8984 04 Maximas - "They're Here!" 03/10/03 Ohioi
Mar 10, 2003 (8:22 pm)
Check the Nissan site for dealer inventory in your area. Almost everyone in Ohio got a couple of 04 Maximas today. Hurray!
Mar 11, 2003 (10:03 am)
i bought the SE with everything but traction, navigation and meridian.
The msrp was 29843. I got it for 25400 including the $1000 rebate. This was at maxwell town north in austin. I worked with Art Ponce who seemed reasonable.
You can probably get a better deal.
Remember that there is a $700 holdback for the dealer from the manufacturer.
#6484 of 8984 Finally saw a 2004 Maxima
Mar 12, 2003 (9:55 am)
Ok, I am gonna give the pros and cons and then sum it up at the end. Here goes!
1) Bigger and roomier
2) 18 inch wheels
3) Quad exhaust is NICE!
4) Autostick (BUT, you can't start in 1st gear like the Acura TL-S and CL-S and it won't let you redline it if you are upshifting or downshifting)!
1) BOOOORING styling! Inside and out. There is just not a lot going on inside. Plus, the orange instruments and lighting are "Blah". I never was a fan of it in the new Altima either. The outside is boring as well. It is nice, but nothing grabs me and says, "I MUST OWN THIS CAR!" Also, without a real spoiler, this car has a HUUUUUGE butt!
2) Cheap, cheap, cheap dash materials. This thing was put together with cheap parts IMO. The plastic reminds me of the interior of the Altima and G35. I did not like the interior of those cars either. Definately not as nice as my 02 SE. Not by a long shot.
3) Xenons not standard on a $29K sticker?? HA! No thanks!
Thats about it for now. I didn't get to drive it because it had just come in. All the salepeople were "looky loos" just like me. I had to explain how the foglights worked for everyone! Good times!
So, in close, would I buy this car? The answer is "No" and here is why:
I am sure this car will outhandle and outdrive my current Maxima. There is no doubt about that. But I think they have geared it towards a much older audience. They have priced it towards an older audience as well. If they were looking to compete with the TL-S and Audi A6, they have sure priced it that way. Too bad it is not nearly as nice as either one of those cars on the inside. The outside will hold up. It is boring just like the TL-S. Unfortunately folks, it looks like they have left the Altima to us previous generation Maxima owners. That is all fine and good if they get the Altima interior looking better. For me? My next car will still be the Mazda RX-8 at this point in time. That is unless somethings else comes along that I want instead.
2002 Maxima SE
Sterling Mist/Frost Cloth
Mar 12, 2003 (4:53 pm)
I also just saw a 2004 Maxima at the Cleveland Car Show last weekend. All I can say is uugghh! What a major dissapointment. Boring exterior with some questionable design elements (front grill and skinny moon roof) and cheap, boring interior. If you are considering a Maxima I would run out quickly and get a great deal on a 2003. I say this as someone who seriously considered a 2003 Max last summer but didn't want to buy knowing the 2004 was around the corner. If I had seen the 2004 I may well have bought 2003 (ended up with a 2000 certified A6)
#6486 of 8984 2000 GLE Rough Idle
Mar 12, 2003 (6:23 pm)
I just purchased a used 2000 GLE with 44k. It idles rough. Sometime worse than others. The car drives great awsome power but the rough idle is killing me. Any suggestions. I searched the boards and didn't find much help.
Mar 12, 2003 (7:34 pm)
It's an educated guess but I think they left Xenons optional because of some of the flak the lights are getting in the press about blinding oncoming drivers. They probably would give the consumer the option of being comfortable with that. I have to agree they are blinding. Thank god for auto-dimming mirrors.
While I think the Max looks fine in side profiles the front end is horrid(I hate chrome) that even a new grille wouldn't save. The only thing I found more disappointing at the auto show was the interior as well, it looked worse than the Alt's. The Alt has cheap materials but it looks okay but the Max is cheap and ugly. Other people thpught the dash was nice but I think it's a case of "Oh it's new so it must be nice", the same way people think the Accord looks nice because it's new.(ugh)
Apparently the 2004 has more torque steer than the last gen and the extra H.P. is offset by the extra weight. I think Nissan is outdesigning itself.This car looks like a dressed up Saturn Ion. I see big discounts coming by May
I'm scared to think what the next gen Altima and Sentra are gonna look like. Please no more chrome teeth!
Mar 12, 2003 (11:17 pm)
As a long time Maxima owner (I've had my '90 SE for 13 years now), I am also disapointed in the new Maxima, but I'm getting used to be disappointed in new Maximas. When the Altima came out and they said the new Maxima was going to move upscale, I got a picture in my mind of the new Maxima sharing the Infiniti M45 platform but using the 3.5 V6 and selling for low to mid 30s. That's a car I would have bought. Unfortunately, the 2004 seems like nothing more than a slightly stretched, gussied up Altima.
Mar 13, 2003 (1:35 am)
Nissan botched the dash on the 2004. At least its not a Quest dash.
The 2004 that's been tested in the mags, did any of those test cars have the limited slip diff? That's supposed to help the torque steer.