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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
Aug 24, 2002 (3:33 am)
I prefer the performance oriented ride, so that probably explains our different opinions. I don't drive aggressively, but I still prefer a tight handling car and am probably subconsciously willing to give up ride quality to get it. Considered the 5-series last fall and would definitely opted for the sport package, even though some complain that it's a bit "harsher". It's the tightest, best handling, decent size, four door sedan I've had the pleasure of driving. I opted to postpone replacing my Maxima and got an S2000 as a second car instead. And yes, my fillings are still intact!
As for the "cost cutting" criticism of Nissan, I think that's bunk too. I have never seen any comparison of the cost of the multilink beam vs. fully independent, but it must be next to insignificant on a $25k car. My 1995 Maxima SE came with OEM tires (Goodyear RSA's) that were fully twice as expensive (and performed twice as well) as the OEM tires on an 1995 Accord, Camry or even Lexus ES300. In my personal opinion, Toyota has milked their reputation and done far more "value engineering" (i.e. cost cutting) than any other manufacturer.
Finally, as for the Acura RL, my attorney has a 1999 and loves it. It has depreciated significantly, but he doesn't plan on selling it anytime soon - will probably pass it on to his daughter in a year or two.
Aug 24, 2002 (10:35 am)
I don't know if the primary motive for the beam was cost-cutting -- only Nissan will know for sure. But I think even Nissan will admit that on hindsight, it has proven to be an inferior design. No problem on smooth surfaces, but hit a bump or 2 in mid-corner and the back end will dance around a little too much for comfort.
Aug 24, 2002 (11:12 am)
Talk about it... There is a road that I take to go to work every day that has a rather big "bump" on it (it's located in a small turn), if I hit it right (I always try to avoid it but sometimes I can't) my rear end goes all over the road. For a second, I feel like I'm loosing control. Not a good feeling I tell ya! I love my car but I hate the beam axle.
#5336 of 8984 rear axle be gone
Aug 24, 2002 (3:56 pm)
Hopefully the 04 Maxima's four wheel independent system will bring back the ride comfort and rear end stabiity that I have missed. Truly, I like the Maxima, particular its engine and reliabiity, and I believe, IMO, it provides the best value in its class - even better than the 6 cylinder Camry and Accord (despite what the consumer mags say). I am also hopeful that the 04 Maxima will continue to be reliable (even though it will be made/assembled in the U.S.) and that its next generation nav. will use DVD rather than CD.
Does anyone want to add to the wish list? But be realistic because we don't want the price to go above $30k. May be Nissan is monitoring this Board and will heed our wishes. Any idea when the 04 will be released and what are the specs?
Aug 24, 2002 (4:30 pm)
Well, you said the magic word (30K). That is what I am worried about in order to get everything I would like. Independent suspension, AWD, =>280HP, better paint job, upgrade interior, sunshade, 5-Speed Automatic etc.
#5338 of 8984 NISSAN: THE JAPANESE PONTIAC?
Aug 25, 2002 (12:23 pm)
I have an '87 Maxima SE and love it, but wonder whether Nissan is now headed in a Pontiac direction: huge power increases, tacky boy racer styling, etc. Current Altima seems headed in that direction. Saw a picture of the forthcoming '04 Maxima, radical styling which had huge blind spots between side and rear windows, etc. Hope Nissan does not go that route.
#5339 of 8984 bartalk2 - Interesting observation
Aug 26, 2002 (3:31 am)
Back when I bought a 1995 Maxima SE in September 1994, the automotive press gave the car high accolades but jumped all over the rear end design. Which to me, even 8 years later, is not all that bad looking. A little "heavy", but not that much different than the 5-series. The rest of the car was preety clean and uncluttered, including the body color modling and "shadowline" window trim.
Now, it seems, the newer Nissan's and Infiniti's seemed designed by committee and, IMO, the G35 sedan makes the rear end of the 1995 Maxima look beautiful by comparison. Infiniti just e-mailed me information about the new M45 sport sedan. It may have a lot going for it, but the exterior and interior looks are an absolute non-starter for me. The Altima and Maxima appear to be designed to look like they were modified BEFORE leaving the factory. Not my style - I'll take a 530i sport 5-speed, thank you very much.
I hadn't thought about the Pontiac comparison, but that's probably a good analogy. And I have never and would never own one.
#5340 of 8984 NISSAN PONTIAC
Aug 26, 2002 (8:19 am)
To differentiate the forthcoming '04 Maxima from the Altima, Nissan will probably increase the horsepower even more, possibly to 280, which is clearly overkill and excessive for this car. The big 17-inch wheels also mean a wider and more cumbersome turning circle, etc. Nissan: don't abandon function and engineering for styling overkill, boy racer design, and gee whiz looks.
#5341 of 8984 '03 v. '04
Aug 26, 2002 (11:55 am)
You guys have touched on some issues which have
had me in a quandry for the last couple of months.
Own a '00 SE and will trade on either a '03 or '04.
There lies the quandry which will probably boil down to a value judgement this coming year.
Do I trade for the '03 which is still made in Japan
or trade for the '04 which is rumored to have rwd,
and fully independent suspension but made in the
USA with "maybe questionable build quality."
I do have issues with the beam rear suspension. I
find it does tend to fishtail under the circumstan-
ces described above by others. Accordingly, I think
fully independent suspension would be a blessing
with negligible impact on flat steering response.
I do believe that the biggest doubt I'll have to
wrestle with between the '03 and '04 will continue
to be the country of origin. I can't help but be-
lieve others will share this concern.
Possibly some input from others who share this
board will help with my decision!!
#5342 of 8984 Sidebar to last entry
Aug 26, 2002 (12:03 pm)
I seriously doubt that Nissan will downgrade the
interior of the '04 Max to the cheesy, cheap looking FoMoCo look of the Altima. The Max is their
flagship model and the interior is part of the "total look" of the
Maxima. Warning to Nissan: Downgrade the interior
of the Max and I'll be in a Acura showroom looking
at a TL "Type S"