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#3832 of 8984 sgrd0q - You mean to tell me...
Dec 15, 2001 (12:28 pm)
..I've been running more than 6.2 miles when I run a 10k?? Good, that explains my slow times. And, as I've aged and added a few pounds, I've noticed that my "drag" has increased exponentially too!!
Seriously though, I know that the performance equation is a lot more complex than I made it sound. That wasn't my attempted point. And I remain a big Nissan fan. But the idea that the 2002 Maxima may barely able to keep up with a 1995 when they put so much marketing effort into "255 horsepower" is a little puzzling, to say the least. I will reserve my judgement until I see R&T do a test, since you are absolutely correct, different testers come up with different numbers.
P.S. According to my calculations, 100 kph = 62.14 mph. And you were close. The 0-50 time for the 1995 was measured by R&T at 5.0 (still have that June 1994 issue). That would suggest that the 1995 SE 5-speed would be more like 7.1 from 0 to 100 kph. However, that's still not much of a difference for all those extra horses. Mind you, a 500+lb heavier 540i 6-speed with 282 horsepower scoots to 60 in about 5.5 seconds and keeps going like a rocket well past 120. I can only speculate that BMW's "horses" must be about three hands taller than Nissan's.
#3833 of 8984 habitat1
Dec 15, 2001 (1:38 pm)
I wouldn't take that 0-60 number very seriously. Wait until a real car magazine like Car & Driver or Road and Track tests the car, then complain.
For reference, Motor Trend and Road and Track have both gotten 6.3 0-60 for the new Altima, which has 15 fewer hp than the Maxima. I'm pretty sure the Maxima can run in the low 6's.
Dec 15, 2001 (3:59 pm)
For what its worth I find my 01 Maxima SE automatic perhaps a little less sprightly from a standing start than my 93 SE was, although the mid-range acceleration is quite sufficient and satisfying for me. I think the 01 must be a couple of hundred pounds heavier than the 93 was -- I have not checked the stats but this is my "seat of the pants" impression. I do agree with the various comments made that the increase in hp. doesn't seem to be translating into real world faster acceleration from a standing start. Then again, how often do you engage in stoplight challenges? Personally, I don't have the heart to punish the machinery in this manner. Even though the Max may not be as quick as a 530i, a Volvo Turbo, a 3.2TLS or any number of other rides, for my money it is still a very satisfying package whose quality of assembly, materials, undisputed long and trouble-free life (if minimally cared for - my two previous Maximas ran well over 100,000 miles with shockingly few visits to the dealer for anything other than scheduled maintenance - my Dad's 93 has in excess of 140,000 miles with no major problems at all) and general robustness is hard to beat. Having stepped out of a Volvo S70 about a year ago and owing a 2000 Acura 3.2 TL, I find the Maxima an all round better package -- no rattles, squeaks, Dealer who is obnoxiously insistent on trying to convince you to overmaintain your vehicle (each of the foregoing pertaining to my Acura), or predisposition to minor mechanical failures (Volvo). I'm pretty happy -- I'll stick with Nissan. Happy motoring to all.
#3835 of 8984 Stereo Speaker replacement
Dec 15, 2001 (7:48 pm)
As I posted above I have just purchased a 2002 Maxima SE and decided to replace the stereo speakers. I had a stock stereo (non-Bose). For those interested here is info on my install and the results:
I removed all door panels and found the locations for each were exactly the same size front and rear. I created a wood mounting bracket for each of the doors (again each was identical so it was a matter of tracing the first one). The bracket was made from 1/2" MDF. The installation in each door was really painless, only taking 2 hours including the brackets (for all four doors). I replaced each of the stock speakers with Infinity 652i's.
I then took apart the rear portion of the car. Seat,Plastic side trims along the window, trunk surround, and finally the rear shelf. I again created a mounting board out of 1/2 MDF and fit it to the stock hole left for the Bose subwoofer. I mounted a Kicker Freeair 8" sub in the board and mounted it to the shelf. I then cut a hole in the rear shelf matching the location of the subwoofer, and created a speaker cover again of MDF and speaker cloth available at most fabric stores. I reassembled the back portion of the car. Total time was about 3 hours.
Lastly I installed a Soundstream USA 180 amp under the passenger seat to drive the sub. I fed the amp from the left only speaker lead which can be located under the plastic trim on the lower part of the door seal / jam. I only needed one channel as the amp was running in bridged mode. Amp install took about 1 hour or so.
I am extremely happy with the results!!! I have listened to the sound of the Bose system side by side with mine and I can honestly say there is a huge difference!! My system is very clear, detailed, and the staging is much better than the Bose (partially due to the Infinity tweeters being adjustable to 360degrees, making it possible to aim them at the driver / passenger). The bass in the vehicle is very accurate, impact is great, without excess mud / boom.
Anyway the result was an incredible difference from the stock system, and definitly and improvment from the Bose system. Especially since the speaker are now nearly broken in and have warmed considerably. The cost was about $400 and about 7 hours of install time (a weekend job).
#3836 of 8984 Torque
Dec 15, 2001 (7:52 pm)
Don't forget that initial torque critical toward acceleration. A 3.5L V-6 just doesn't have the same torque as BMW's 4.4L V-8 or GM's supercharged 3.8L V-6. The Nissan 3.5L V-6 is a wonderful engine but you can't expect it to perform miracles. However, I do expect it to out accelerate similar or heavier weighted cars with smaller engines (e.g., Cadillac CTS w/3.2L V-6, Lincoln LS w/3.0L V-6, IS300 w/3.0L I-6, and 330i w/3.0L I-6).
And the relationship of redline to the timing of shifts can really be a factor. Car that can get to 60 mph in 2nd gear usually out accelerates one that requires a shift into 3rd gear due to approaching redline.
#3837 of 8984 Messy Road Conditions
Dec 15, 2001 (9:57 pm)
i'm consisdering buying a '02 maxima, like everything about it but only one question: how does it handle in the snow/messy new england road conditions?
#3838 of 8984 gone2vegas - Maxima will handle messy road conditions..
Dec 16, 2001 (5:42 am)
..about as well as any similar sized front wheel drive sedan. Better than virtually all rear wheel drive sedans, probably not quite as good as an Audi "quatro", BMW "x" or Mercedes "4-matic".
I travel quite a bit to northwestern Pennsylvania (i.e. "snowbelt") and to visit my wife's family north of Portland, Maine. We will take our Isuzu Trooper if we know there is heavy snow on the ground or coming, but otherwise go with the Maxima. It has handled everything it's been through quite well.
P.S. We have a 1995 SE 5-speed (i.e. 15" wheels and "H" rated tires). If you get a 2002 SE with 17" wheels and "V" rated tires, you may want to consider all-season / snow tires with steel rims for the winter. The standard tires on the GXE or GLE are probably fine. Also, I think a manual transmission offers more control in messy conditions, but that may be because that's all I've ever owned. I've "rocked" myself out of a few sticky situations that an automatic would have been more difficult to modulate.
#3839 of 8984 Is $23800 a reasonable price for a 2002 GLE now?
Dec 16, 2001 (8:25 am)
My only concern is that the GLE is not cutting the corner as good as a Altima, not to mention a Subaru WRX. And SE is just not my cup of tea.
Dec 16, 2001 (10:20 am)
I can't imagine that you will actually be able to easily find a base GLE with no options, but if you do, $23,800 would be an excellent price. Is this an offer you already have or what you want to offer the dealer?
#3841 of 8984 With splash guards
Dec 16, 2001 (2:42 pm)
The dealer has several. I am pretty sure I can get $23800. I am also considering a I35 but I don't really need the heated seats.
Do you think Infiniti really is built better than Nissan as C&D suggests in a recent survey? I suspect it's just because Infiniti has longer warranty and Infiniti owners are generally more mature.