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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#2833 of 8984 Horsepower Claims
Aug 15, 2001 (11:04 am)
As an otherwise big fan of Nissan, I also find overstated horsepower and underachieving performance to be reprehensible.
If their numbers are honest, at 255 horsepower, 246 lb-ft of torque, vehicle weight of 3,224 lbs and with a 6-speed manual, I would expect the 2002 Maxima SE to be able to match a 1999 BMW M3 in acceleration (240 hp, 236 lb-ft, 3,175 lb vehicle weight, 5-speed manual). We'll see, but I'm not holding my breath.
I don't think the recent horsepower inflation and performance disappointment dilemma is restricted to Nissan. Not only does my 1995 Maxima SE (190 hp) meet or beat the 2000/2001 222 hp Maxima, it also is way ahead of anything currently coming out of Toyota, Honda, or Volkswagon with similar or better "ratings". I stated previously that I think BMW uses Clysdales (to thier credit), while almost everybody else has switched to Shetland Ponies.
#2834 of 8984 jimxo - transmission slip
Aug 15, 2001 (4:42 pm)
I don't have an auto myself, but I'm pretty sure when ever you take your foot off the gas the rpms drop quite a bit. Dropping all the way down to idle speed may not be very common, but I do notice it drop a lot in my mom's 626 when ever I take my foot off the gas to slow down for a corner or something.
Aug 15, 2001 (8:10 pm)
Maybe if acceleration times were only determined by horsepower and curb weight the new Maxima should stick close to the old M3. However, you know that this is never the case.... acceleration times can be heavily determined by traction, gear ratios (especially), weather conditions, and aerodynamics (slightly). If the previous Maxima with 222hp and 5-speed ran the 60 in the high 6 sec range, I'd expect low to mid 6 sec for the new one.
#2836 of 8984 Transmission Slips
Aug 15, 2001 (8:44 pm)
Thanks LEONIV and JIMXO for your input. The service manager did send out the factory engineer to test drive Max today. The factory engineer found the car to be within specs and so nothing will be done. The service advisor gave us the number for Nissan's consumer complaint line which I will be calling first thing tomorrow. So far I am not very impressed on how Nissan is handling this issue. If they acknowledge this is a known problem with the tranny per their technical service bulletin then why won't they just fix the problem?? They say it doesn't pertain to our car. Our car was manufactured 6/01. They still have our car and I don't want it back until it's fixed. Any ideas??
#2837 of 8984 gloriad - Slipping Tranny
Aug 16, 2001 (4:33 am)
The newer, computerized" transmissions take a while to "learn" your driving style and habits and they gradually shift on that basis. I know the feeling as my wife have a 2001 Maxima and she drives much more conservatively than I do. So, when I drive it, it "slips" between shifts. If I intentionally accellerate much easier and allow a long, slow build of of rpms, the shift is smooth as silk. If the problem persists or you change drivers or driver style, the technician can "flash" (I assume that means "clear") the chip memory and it will start learning all over again and then adapt to the newer driver.
Be patient. It's worth the adjustment. This is my wifes 5th Maxima since 1989 and we've loved every one of them
Aug 16, 2001 (4:50 am)
My advice is to drive the car for a few weeks and see if the trans gets better or worse. I think any transmission problems will be fully exposed in a short amount of time and then the problem will be more evident.
Your warranty is 3/36k miles. I know you want this fix now, however if their testing shows no problems where are they supposed to start? Very unlikely your time yelling will get you a new trans.
Relax, enjoy and let the car do what ever it must. These unique types of problems eventually show up in a short amount of time.
Aug 16, 2001 (5:21 am)
I didn't know your car was manufacured 6/01. That date is definitely outside of the dates for the slipping tranny TSB. i agree with jimxo. if there really is a problem, it will show up soon and probably be much worse. Granted, by the time it does show up, it may have caused more damage (damaged flywheel?), but your car will be under warranty and Nissan will have to fix it. Keep your receipt from this visit and show them you brought the problem to their attention earlier so it's their fault the problem has grown worse. If there's another dealer or some repair shop that specializes in Japanese cars, I would go there for a second opinion. Good luck.
#2840 of 8984 Transmission Slips
Aug 16, 2001 (8:16 am)
Thank you JSCATENA, JIMXO and LEONIV for all your help. Will take your advice and give Max a chance to work things out. I will be the main driver and will be putting on 600-700 miles per week. Will keep you posted.
#2841 of 8984 Question about lighting on 2000 maxima
Aug 16, 2001 (8:29 am)
Okay, I have a question about the interior lighting on 2000 maximas. Specifically, a 2000 SE. On the driver's side door, there are 6 buttons total on my car. The power door lock, the window lock, and the 4 window switches. On my car, I've recently noticed that the window lock button is NOT lit. Has anyone else noticed this, or is my window lock light broken or is something else going on? Thanks a lot for responses...
#2842 of 8984 har1bush - 2002 Maxima performance
Aug 16, 2001 (10:04 am)
I suspect you may be proven right - that the new Maxima will only be marginally quicker than the current one. Although, given the additional 1/2 litre displacement, I would have hoped for better. Certainly the claimed horsepower increase for the model year 2000 was a joke. Whatever gain Nissan got from "tweaking" essentially the same 3.0 litre engine in my 1995 Maxima must be powering something other than the front wheels!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting a Maxima to perform like a BMW. I just find that the "mines bigger than yours" horsepower bandwagon that many manufacturers have jumped on to be producing a lot of unsubstantiated claims. I will continue to let my own test driving determine which are real and which are bogus.
As for gear ratios having an "especially" significant impact on acceleration, perhaps Nissan should steal BMW's specs. If they can't get it right with a 6-speed (another recent bandwagon), just how many gears do they need? 7? 8?