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#6956 of 8276 1.8T manual 4motion reliability
Mar 19, 2004 (7:45 am)
I need to replace my VW Cabrio (not a bad car, but the drivetrain has been a recurring problem for me) with a commuter car for use between Richmond and Fredericksburg, VA on I-95. I need something that will do well on icy, snowy parking lots and local roads, since they don't seem to get treated as quickly as I 95 in the winter. The Passat appeals to me given Consumer Reports recommendation on safety.
I test drove the 2004 Passat sedan with 1.8T, manual, 4 motion. I quite liked this car and felt it drove much better than my wife's 1997 Subaru outback with 2.5 and manual and AWD.
I am wondering whether I should wait for the 2005 Subaru Legacy which will have side curtain airbags but what seems to be a similar drive train as my wife's 97 Subaru.
My questions about VW reliability include:
1. Has VW finally fixed the ignition coil problem?
2. Can I expect 120K out of the 1.8T (assuming I religiously follow VW recs on maintenance)? Consumer Reports rates 1.8T VWs as below average reliability (I think most of this is due to the ignition coil)
3. Is 4-motion as bullet proof as AWD on Subarus?
Mar 19, 2004 (3:05 pm)
I have noticed in some configurators (and I am not limiting this to VW or Audi or BMW etc) they SOMETIMES say "leather seating surfaces" and sometimes there is another option that uses the word leather.
When a specific mention is made of LEATHER SEATING SURFACES I assume that your back and butt get leather, period.
If the option list offers another -- more expensive -- leather option and does NOT specifically say leather seating surfaces, I, for right or for wrong, assume that the whole seat is leather covered.
Frankly, the quality of leather and leather surfaces and the ability to virtually seamlessly (no pun intended) be put together has made me care not if the whole thing is leather or some combination. Just don't lie to me.
So, if the Passat, for example offers cloth, vinyl, leather and leather seating surfaces as distinct options, I would assume that the leather means ALL leather.
I could be wrong.
#6958 of 8276 W8 windshield replacement
Mar 20, 2004 (12:47 pm)
Interestingly, before I took possession of my W8 last April (shipped in from port), the dealer found a crack in the windshield. To replace it they had to order it from somewhere, but actually subcontracted to a local auto glass repair company to do the installation.
#6959 of 8276 air bag malfunction
Mar 20, 2004 (6:14 pm)
I've got a 2001 Passat GLS i bought new three years ago. About six weeks ago,the air bag light wouldn't go out. Because the car has such low milage,21,000 miles now,VW paid for the repair. Now,six weeks later,the air bag light stayed on again today. I'm pretty confident VW will fix it again,but I'm getting a little frustrated with my car. Would a Virginia Lemon Law apply here?
#6960 of 8276 Taken to the cleaners??
Mar 21, 2004 (12:15 pm)
Please help me understand if my service department took me and my 1.8 tip to the cleaners.I brought my passat in for a routine oil change at 30,000 and also to take off my nokian all weather tires and put the original performance tires back on in anticipation for the spring that is taking its time to get to the northeast. The tech said that my rear brakes were worn almost to the metal. I found this hard to believe as I am easy on the brakes and never replaced brakes in my previously owned nissan or honda until almost 50,000miles. Anyhow, he said it would cost $400.00.
After they revived me and picked me off the floor I gave the OK because I was already in the shop and service appointments are hard to get. I asked him it would be much cheaper to have it done in sears or midas , he replied probably, but only by $75- 100.00.
I can not understand how my rear brakes could have been so worn that there was no signs, no metallic noises, no reduced braking, no warning lights.
The service report states that they replaced 2 brake disks, one lining, performed rear brake service including rotors and pads, serviced calipers.
Has anyone else had this job done and if so was it as much? Is there any brake warning on the passat?
Thanks so much in advance for your time to answer this posting.
PS I just received a form to complete joining a class action suit against VW for the coil fiasco. Unfortunately except for major stress and inconvience , I did not have any out of pocket expenses.
#6961 of 8276 Rear Brakes...
Mar 21, 2004 (2:01 pm)
...are a common problem on the Passat. 25k miles is not unusual. Go to the "Passat Owners - Problems and Solutions Board" and have a look at the latest post. There have been others.
I wouldn't be surprised if the problem isn't as simple as the rear pads being a fraction of the thickness of the fronts. Honda has acquired a rep for carrying this to extremes, as well, on some recent Accords.
Mar 21, 2004 (7:41 pm)
Re your questions, I can answer one: the ignition coil. Yes, completely fixed. (THe question has been discussed a lot on this board--maybe do a search - but yes, with an '04, not an issue.)
I don't know the answer to the other two questions. I've had my own 1.8T for only 6 months, so we'll see, but I'm hoping it will last a long time - it's a great ride. Makes all the driving I have to do less of a drag. The safety features were a factor for me, too; ESP was good to have this last winter.
Anyway, good luck with your decision!
Mar 22, 2004 (7:21 am)
The price you were quoted for all the work done sounds fairly reasonable. It is a bit high, but if they replaced, rotors and pads and serviced your brake system (Fluid) it sounds about right. I have also heard of rear brake issues on the Passat. Good luck!!
Mar 22, 2004 (10:50 am)
. . .on my 2000 and 2001 Audi A6's "went fast" too. This may be no consolation other than to confirm that this from VW's 1st cousin (Audi) would seem to corroborate the short life span of older VW and Audi brakes.
By way of comparison, my 2003 Audi allroad (A6 based) has 26,000 and all brakes are factory standard, normal and have just under 50% of their "life left."
Of course all my Audis eat tires in under 20K miles.
You know, I get real excited about a lot of the VW products, I test drive them, I like them and then I get a lease quote on them -- and ya know what? I factor in the no charge for nuttin' 'cept tires and registration/plates aspect of the Audi and I run away from the VW cause they seem less costly to buy but more costly to own, so I -- thus far -- stick with the Audi since I don't have the $400 brake fix surprise or the $80 wiper blade surprise, etc.
I know our good friend VWGUILD says that 100% maintenance + the 50,000 mile warranty isn't doable due to "volume" -- but I would PAY "a flat amount extra" for 100% free everything for 50,000 miles in a heartbeat.
The W8 looks so attractive from every aspect 'cept maintenance.
Of course that's jus' my opinion. . .
Mar 23, 2004 (7:29 am)
Still original after 106,000 miles. 2000 1.8t Wagon Manual tranny.
If your brakes were not squeeking you probably had some life left in them. Why did they replace the rotors? They can usually be resurfaced once with no adverse effects. BTW sears charges somewhere around $100 for rear disc brakes (resurfaced). I would avoid that dealer in the future.