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#3593 of 8276 Waiting stinks, indeed. . .
May 04, 2002 (6:51 am)
I couldn't agree with you more, waiting does stink -- but there is also something of a "thrill of the hunt" in buying cars -- at least when you reach this class and country of origin. Owning many Audis (24) a few VW's (3) and one (1) BMW since 1977 (my wife and I together, that is) -- I can tell you that only once (we bought the owner's BMW 325 ix in 1988) did we not have to wait at least four months for one of these fine cars. We waited for over a year from the time we put our deposit down for my wife's 1.8t 180HP Pearl Black Audi TT (model year 2000). I ordered a 1997 Pearl White Audi A8 in 1996 and it took over 5 months to come in -- but I kept getting updates from AoA -- once they sent me a video tape of "my car" going through the paint process narrated by "Hans" der herr in der paint factory. Every month my anticipation grew -- the delivery process after such a long wait was the personfication of the gratification of anticipation (Carly Simon [sic]).
You are now involved in not buying a car, but buying a lifestyle -- at the very least the process of deciding on a Passat might be likened to the process of building a custom house out in the country with an architech named Bardwell. Enjoy it -- unlike building the dream house, you can with some regularity repeat the process of building your new dream car every few years.
Enjoy it, savaor it.
#3594 of 8276 2002 Passat on Regular Fuel??
May 04, 2002 (7:36 am)
I'm planning on buying a 2002 Passat 1.8t, tiptronic, luxury, leather, monsoon, etc. Has anybody tried running regular or midgrade fuel and what have your results been? Also, why does VW recommend premuim fuel for the 1.8t in the Passat, but regular fuel for the 1.8t Jetta? Thanks!
#3595 of 8276 Regular Fuel
May 04, 2002 (7:50 am)
VW says Premium, 91 octane or better for the Passat. If you use lower octane you'll have reduced mileage and probably poorer performance. If this concerns you and you can't afford the extra $$ for the right gasoline you should consider not buying the car. Over the course of a year the additional fuel cost is minimal and it will be ofset anyway by your filling up more often. Just my opinion.
#3596 of 8276 Running a Passat on less than Premium. . .
May 04, 2002 (11:06 am)
. . .is a false economy. If you really want to do something that wastes money, just light a $5 bill on fire every once in a while. Running these engines on regular or super regular is just about as thrifty as that. And, although the computer will try to help you if you use lower octane fuel, you will absolutely have poorer performance. On the other hand, if you are able to find, say 93 or 94 octane (without alcohol in it) you will notice slightly improved performance and, if you're good (i.e., don't "get into it") even better milage. But we are talking small improvements on the plus side, but larger degradation on the minus side -- especially in milage.
May 04, 2002 (5:43 pm)
Say a little more about the "93 or 94 octane (without alcohol in it)". They sell lots of gas with methanol in this part of the country. Are you saying it will damage the engine, or is it just not equivalent with the alocohol free at the same octane level?
May 05, 2002 (6:55 am)
As far as I know no damage will occur -- those days are past. As you said, "it just not equivalent with the alocohol free at the same octane level?" Octane, as I understand it, has to do with "preignition" point -- 89 octane gasoline will more likely cause engine "ping" than higher octane gasoline (and the engine computer does try to compensate for this by what is in effect retarding of the spark -- and as we know when the spark is retarded, generally speaking, the power of the engine is likewise retarded). Audi used to rate its turbocharged 20V 5cyliner engine based on the octane of the fuel put into it (the torque numbers were higher with higher octane gasoline). I think both VW and Audi have dropped this practice since the engine managment computer does try to compensate somewhat for octane differences.
However, therefore, notwithstanding -- it still does not make any financial sense to use lower octane fuel in your VW or Audi (based on the owner's manual recommendations). It is, i.e., as I said before, a false economy. But I do believe there are really no reasons any more for concern about ethanol enhanced fuels actually doing damage.
#3599 of 8276 show and tell
May 05, 2002 (7:15 pm)
I finally got my 2002 1.8T 5sp lux,leth, blue anth/black int. passat last week and I am loving it [still].
Having owned/driven nothing but pickup trucks the past two years, I guess you could say the change was/is refreshing from a driving perspective. I love to hear that soft whistling noise as the accelerator is pushed And I like the illumination on the instrument panel.
I have some questions/comments to share.
I haven't completely reviewed all of the documentation...
(1) I have mentioned this before... is it ok to turn the car off w/o any "spool down/cool down" period?
(2) Somebody said something about replacing the floor mats with ones that are little more hearty? I have noticed that the way that I drive, with my heel digging into the mat, has already "made an impression" on the factory mat.
(3) Somebody said something about the monsoon not being wired correctly?
About the only complaint I have so far about the car is the arm rests. I can't seem to find a position where I can relax my arm(s) while holding the wheel.
#3600 of 8276 Eibach Springs/Shocks
May 06, 2002 (2:33 am)
Has anyone had experience ordering Eibach handling/suspension kits for 2001.5 Passat? 2 dealers in my area told me to drop by and pre pay so they can order the 1.2" lower springs.
My mechanic tried as well and was told the upgrades for the '01.5 were *not* available.
Any experiences out there worth noting?
May 06, 2002 (6:32 am)
The center console cover can be ratcheted up in several positions. It also can be moved forward with a little tug.
May 06, 2002 (7:15 am)
First of all, Congratulations & Welcome to the
Although your Passat's turbo is water cooled as well as intercooled, both of these systems shut down as soon as you turn off the car. For local,
around town driving a cooling off protocol is
unnecessary, but if you have been doing some real
hard driving it is a good idea to park the car in the garage and let it idle while you gather together your stuff, or turn off the sound system,
put the cd back in it's case...whatever...it will
only take 30-45 seconds or so to allow cooler oil
and water to circulate thru the turbo reducing
it's temp...a good habit to get into...
While it is nice that VW provides carpet mats in
all of their cars, but like any carpet mat, at the
end of the day it is a dirty carpet mat...VW Monster Mats or WeatherTechs are available and
will serve you well...
Have not heard anything about mis-wired Monsoon
The center arm-rest is a challenge...and requires
some patience. Try lifting it up and sliding it
back and then forward again...This has been redesigned, but obviously not soon enough for those that have to deal with it today...