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#31 of 8249 zup1 by jed1894 Oct 27, 2000 (11:47 pm)
You will enjoy the ride back to Miami. It's not such a bad idea to buy a car like you're buying. The drive back to Miami will be very pleasant and you'll enjoy finding out about the car. If possible, make the drive at night. The 2001 Passat's have an awesome interior light scene. The color is hypnotizing (spelling ?) as well. Also, when I lived in Miami, I think there was a VW dealer in Ft. Laud. somewhere. I think the name was Gunther VW/Mazda. I bought several Mazdas from them and always had good luck. I'm almost positive they sold VWs but I'm not sure. You might want to try them for servicing, etc. Enjoy..... JOhn
#32 of 8249 audiandpassat by vwguild Oct 28, 2000 (4:18 am)
First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to respond to my post regarding your recent purchase. Contained in that response you will find one of the answers to your question... "Why is it that you are spending so much of your time guarding the Passat shopping flock anyway?" Please take note...that is a direct quote... Here is another direct quote from post #18 of #31, "Just got my Silver/Grey 2001 GLX 4M for about $150 over invoice." And then there is this direct quote..."I simply made the best deal I could for me - and he did make the $150 plus 2% for a few hours of working with me." I detect here a small inconsistency...There is a slight difference between the $150 that you said you paid and the $731.06 that you really paid. Hard invoice on a GLX 4MO is $29,053 including $525 Destination...2% over is $581.06 + $150... well, you get the picture, and I hope everyone else does as well. I must say that if you paid $731.06 over on this car you got a great deal, but you made a statement that was inaccurate, and that is why I take the time to make these posts. Getting a new car should be a wonderful, happy experience; for most, it is the 2nd most single most expensive investment a person makes, and by making even one person believe that they can do something that they cannot do sets them on a course that can only lead to a frustrating, time consuming odyssey that results in something that is certainly less than fun. Going back to the beginning of your post...If you had "wandered onto my lot" you would have never met me. I am the Internet Sales Manager, and do not "take ups".`If you went to my website, you would find there my entire inventory...all priced basically in accordance with Edmunds *TMV*. True, there are variances, but they are both more and LESS, depending upon availability. As to my intentions, they are really quite simple... to provide, as best I can, information that is clear, concise, and factual...to provide advice that is is sound and practical...and finally to protect people from information or statements of fact that are untrue. I participate here without the cloak of anonymity, and I believe that, for the most part, I have responded to requests for assistance in a timely and professional manner, whether that be on the phone or email or fax. The internet provides a forum for a multitude of voices, and for the most part without prejudice, but with that freedom also comes responsibility... I believe that I participate here in a responsible way...I hope that I am not scaring anyone by being candid and forthright.
#33 of 8249 You are quite right vwguild.... by busan Oct 28, 2000 (5:06 am)
I did forget about the $1K dealer holdback...so let's revise. $25,090 Invoice Price $ 1,000 Holdback --------- $24,090 Adjusted Invoice Price $24,190 Purchase Price --------- $ 100 Over invoice purchase price
#34 of 8249 busan by vwguild Oct 28, 2000 (5:43 am)
DH...If I remember correctly...you two got a GLS, 4MO, no roof, no wheels, and cloth. Invoice on that is $24,770 plus $117 for Port Prep, and Destination $525. = $25,412. You paid $24,190...or $1222 back of invoice. And now that I think about it, the Dealer Incentives did not apply to 4MO. Holdback is 3% of MSRP...$806.25 Destination not included. Dennis, I've said it before, you got a great deal on this very unusual Passat. And you said it yourself... you took what was in the showroom. Nothing special...They took a real loss on this car, as you can see, secondary to bad ordering, and I am sure that whoever ordered it got an earful from the Owner, but you two have the Passat that works for you and that is the most important part...PS
#35 of 8249 To Passat Or not to Passat? by pearlscales Oct 28, 2000 (1:45 pm)
josephf1 couldn't have expressed my reservations better than he did in Response #25!! Seems like there's a fear factor in buying a VW, even thought the test drive's so satisfying. I had a 1990 Corrado and swore off VW's because of the unroadworthy and very expensive tires it came with that VW wouldn't accept any responsibility for. Lots of dollars in dealing with that problem. I'm torn between the GLX with 5-speed and the Maxima 20th Anniversary edition with 5-speed and I want to come down on the Passat side. But then there's the likelihood of trouble- freedom on the Maxima side! Any more help - no dealers please!!!!!
#36 of 8249 VWGUILD - Correction by audiandpassat Oct 28, 2000 (2:11 pm)
Sorry, you didn't understand my comment about making "$150 plus 2%." I was referring to what I had been led to believe was the 2% holdback. Just above you said it was 3%. Whatever. I just know that the dealer acknowledged that there was a holdback when I included it in our conversation as to how much money the dealer was making on our deal. I know I paid only $150 over the invoice because I saw the invoice. There was no "dealer fee" added. I am again taking the time to respond to your post because you are inaccurately correcting me. I hope you and everyone else gets the picture. I agree that $700 or $800 over invoice would have been a good deal. I just got a great deal. The dealer did have a lot of Passats in stock and it was near the end of the month and the dealer knew I was going to buy a car within 24 hours. It was just a matter of from whom. I gather that within a region dealers are very competitive and don't want a rival getting a sale. I presume allotments of new cars the next month depend on sales the previous month. Maybe I got a dealer in exactly the right situation for a savvy buyer. I'm not sure how or why I got such a good deal and don't mean to imply that everyone could end up with as good. But I took time to post it to let others know that they should try taking a fairly aggressive negotiating stance. I must say your tone has been quite moderated from your first sneering, inflammatory comments to me. That's nice and I assume that will work better for you in the long run. Maybe you should refrain from posting here when you've had too much coffee - *especially* if you only do your business through the internet. So please just give me credit for negotiating aggressively and quote me correctly. Once you do, I can forever stop checking this site and go out and have fun in my new Passat! My only intention in being here in the first place was to pass the word that great deals are possible. Have a nice and polite day.
#37 of 8249 audiandpassat by vwguild Oct 28, 2000 (6:19 pm)
Would not want to do any thing to stand in the way of your enjoyment of your new Passat. I had just returned from Volkswagen de Mexico, in Puebla at around 3:00AM; so a good nights sleep would probably been a better use of time. I any event enjoy your new ride...
#38 of 8249 further... by vwguild Oct 28, 2000 (7:28 pm)
Let me also say that I am sorry that I let my pride get in the way...At VW, Customer Loyalty and Value are the cornerstones of what we do everyday. For one of our dealers to treat our Flagship Product like distress mechandise is appalling. After our more extended exchanges it seems that you are a reasonable and thoughtful individual, and that if you say that is the deal you got, then I believe that is the deal you got. But no wonder he had a lot of Passats on the ground...Out here we cannot get enough of them, and thus it is very hard to comprehend giving them away. In addition, that policy takes away all Value. As I mentioned last night, there has to be a fair amount of oneupmanship being posted and that really does set the stage for customer disappointment when that individual can't replicate the deal that they read about...no one wins...unless, of course, they find out where you got yours... So, once again, drive and enjoy...I will attempt to be a little less enthusiastic in my responses in the future, keeping in mind that as hard as some of us work to create a more professional, value oriented environment, that there are still a number of dealers who believe it is business as usual. Making up what they lost on your deal by trying to bury someone else...sad. Take care...PS
#39 of 8249 pearlscales by jed1894 Oct 28, 2000 (8:22 pm)
No problems yet with my 2001 Passat (5000 miles). Today I had my wife take the car for the 5000 service and what a pleasure. She was out in 1 and 1/2 hours....and on a Saturday too. The Saturday service is a major plus for us...we work all week and would have to take a day off for the service. We also live about 1.5 hours from the dealer. We also drove Nissan Max., Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, and numerous other brands. After driving all, we came back to the Passat wagon. At this point, and I stress at this point, the car is GREAT! Probably the best car I've (and my wife) owned (although I'm a truck man). The bottom line: my wife loves it. By-the-way,,,,,,the staff at VW are outstanding so far. Good luck. John
#40 of 8249 pearlscales....2nd part by jed1894 Oct 28, 2000 (8:24 pm)
Oh yea.....if you can, get the V6.....it hauls A#%. It will smoke my V8 truck. The power is really remarkable. John

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