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Apr 23, 2001 (10:06 pm)
I am new to the forum and need some assistance. I adore my 1995 Civic. Everything has been wonderful- except for the paint.
Beginning about 3 years ago it started to fade. It is now significantly gone. The hood and the roof are the most effected, however there is the start of a new patch fading on the bottom of one of the doors.
Yes, I live in Arizona and do not always have my car in covered parking, but this is beyond sun damage.
I called someone at Honda Corporate who said others have called with the same complaint but he was not aware of a recall.
Does anyone have any advice?
#502 of 4041 Decibels...
Apr 24, 2001 (9:09 am)
2k-Sedan EX. Swapped the entire stereo system and noticed this (after removing seats/backs, front/rear dash, trunk liner and door speaker grilles): Thin-pile carpet with no backing, and behind the body panels - bare sheet metal. Design... with no splashguard behind he rear fenders and underneath the trunk floor, it creates a resounding resonance in the trunk interior (check it out when you drive and have the pass-through seatback down).
So if you're thinking doing Dynamat here and there, forget it since you'll have to do the entire car (unless you can rationalize the cost). Pumping up the volume is more "cost effective".
Regardless, ACCEPTING where the Civic market segmentation is - it's a great car.
#503 of 4041 2001 Honda Civic EX sedan, 5-speed
Apr 24, 2001 (11:08 am)
I just got mine 3 weeks ago for $15700 with floormats, (+ tax and license). Also I paid $400 for an alarm system that guarantees this if my car is stolen:
they would pay me the difference between what insurance pays and how much a new car costs.
Out the door price was $17,700 with everything.
Filled the tank 3 times. Here are my mileage numbers:
I can't believe I got 37.3 MPG on 60% highway driving. I am stunned and amazed.
Apr 24, 2001 (12:01 pm)
good numbers there! i have an EX automatic coupe 2001. I only ever seem to get 29-30, all city driving. guess the auto trans really does make a difference. have not had the oil changed yet...waiting until 4k miles.
#505 of 4041 question about 30,000mile service
Apr 24, 2001 (4:39 pm)
I have a 2000 honda civid lx and will hit 30,000 miles soon. I always go to a Honda service center for any service of my car, but this time I got a coupon for 30k mi service which is much cheaper then honda service provides. Shall I stick with the honda service center or take advantage of the coupon? Thanks for any response.
#506 of 4041 30,000
Apr 24, 2001 (4:52 pm)
Having the service done somewhere else is probably fine, but it looks good at resale to have all dealer service.
I would check for coupons from the dealer and also shop around at other Honda dealers.
I had oil changes at my Honda dealer for $19.95 and most other services for prices in the range of mom and pop mechanics especially when the dealer had coupons.
#507 of 4041 carsdirect.com
Apr 24, 2001 (5:36 pm)
Has anyone purchased a new vehicle using carsdirect.com or any of the other online services? My wife and I are going to purchase a Honda Civic Ex soon and we didn't talk money yet, but the salesman wanted to inform us that he didn't have a lot of room to move.
I have a price in mind by looking at edmunds and carsdirects websites and will use this info when dealing, but want to know if people are satisfied with carsdirect if the honda dealers in my area won't negotiate.
Based on the prices some of you have paid, I'm not paying MSRP either and want to use carsdirect as a bargaining chip, but I may have to actually use it.
Any info would be of great help.
#508 of 4041 carsdirect.com, bargaining chips
Apr 24, 2001 (6:45 pm)
I never actually used carsdirect.com but I know they offer cars at invoice + dealer holdback + destination charge. so the Civic EX sedan 5-speed would be $15726.
That is a good price according to Edmunds, and I haven't seen any flat out offers from dealers below that price. It could be used as a bargaining chip, but I decided against buying from carsdirect.com because it seemed there was no dealership associated with it, nobody to "bring the car back to" if there were problems... I thought it would lack the personal component. Of course you can bring it to any dealership, but the anonymity seemed too scary for such a big cash transaction.
I used 2 bargaining chips:
1) I shopped around at 4 Honda dealerships and got print-outs of offers, which I showed to the other dealers. Most dealers were willing to offer me Edmunds TMV price. When I showed the other dealer, they agreed to throw in floor mats for the same price.
2) FIND PROBLEMS with the car you will buy. I noticed the trunk fabric was not perfectly tucked in on one corner of the trunk, and that there was some dirt in the back-seat floor, probably from people who tracked dirt in the car... and I said, well, I want my new car to be PERFECT. The manager agreed to knock a couple hundred dollars off. I was able to tuck in the trunk fabric just fine, and they vacuumed the back floor and covered it with brand new floormats!
But now, I am not totally sure I really DID get a good deal... because all I see are the internet prices... I don't actually know any human who BOUGHT the same car, so I can't really be SURE I got a good deal!
#509 of 4041 Don't waste your time. with cars direct.
Apr 24, 2001 (7:15 pm)
Right now, Civics are in good supply. No need to pay MSRP. Just find a different dealer.
#510 of 4041 01 suspension; front better than rear
Apr 24, 2001 (7:22 pm)
I couldn't agree more for what your guys were saying here. I have never owned any Civic before my current 2001 Civic LX. But I owned a 96 Accord LX and a 98 Lexus ES300 before this one. I would say Civic handles way much better than that Accord (which has double wishbone at both front and rear) and is on par with the Lexus. On the freeway on-ramp near my home, both Lexus and Civic would start complaining at 37-38mph. The Accord would complain at 32mph with the factory tires and 34mph after I changed tires.
But Civic's suspension (especially the rear one) leaves too much to be desired. I think this is my only major complain against this Civic. There are 5 annoying speed bumps from my home to the entrance of the community. I used to run over them at 15-20mph with the Lexus without making my wife mutter. With the Accord, I would run over at 5-10mph. But this Civic forces me to come to complete stop at each bump and even that still makes my wife complain about headache when the rear end runs over the bumps at sub-walking speed. On the streets, it reminds me of every hole/dip larger than a few inches. As I said in one of my previous message, I didn't experience this problem with Corolla/Sentra/Cavalier/Neon or even Accent. So I don't know what's wrong with Civic.
Other than that, I like this Civic. Its auto transmission is as smooth as that of the Lexus. And, for all the things I hate my 96 Accord: horrible brake, jerky transmission, bad handling, weak AC, noisy interior, sub-par assembly quality, and factory floor mats that didn't fit the floor, Civic is doing a (much) better job.