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#3934 of 4041 Got my money's worth
Dec 28, 2005 (7:02 am)
Just wanted to back up Honda's reputation for reliability. I drive a 1993 Honda Civic EX with 205,000 miles on it and have not been able to bring myself to buy a new car because this one shows no signs of giving up the ghost just yet. During the past 13 years the only things that have been replaced are the alternator and exhaust B pipe, and I need a new window seal, but other than that I never even needed to replace the clutch. It is still quiet and still gets around 30 mpg. So the rest of you can look forward to that. Anyway, I'm about to find out if I can still get a few hundred dollars for such an old car, but the truth is it still has a couple more years at least in it.
Speaking of selling, has anyone ever tried to sell a very old Civic, or a very old car in general? Is that possible? If not, does anyone know where to take a car to get some kind of scrap or salvage price? Basically wondering if there is any value left in the car.
#3935 of 4041 Re: Got my money's worth [joedimaggio]
Jan 02, 2006 (6:49 pm)
I'm actually looking at purchasing a 92 Civic EX from an individual that has been the sole owner and has all the maintenance records and is in excellent shape. Only 74,000 miles on the vehicle. I'm going to make an offer close to $3,000 after I test drive it and everything checks out. With only 74,000 on a 92 the body will fall apart before the mechanics. I believe I'll get my monies worth. I've been trying to find the maintenance schedule on the 92 Civics. I'm sure it would be the same as the 93. Could you give me some info on when major maintenance needs to be done, etc. I want as much info on the vehicle before I make the offer. Thanks!
#3936 of 4041 Hoda Civic 1999 Rear Window Defogger
Jan 10, 2006 (2:25 pm)
The rear window defogger is not working but the switch light is ON. No power is getting to the rear window. The fuse 7.5A is ok. Where else should I look? Timer, Relay and where are they?
Thanks for your help.
#3937 of 4041 01 Civic 5-year assessment.
Feb 06, 2006 (12:12 pm)
I used this forum extensively when buying my first new car, an 01 Civic EX, and it was very helpful for gaining perspective on the car.
If anyone is curious, here are some highlights from my experience so far:
- The car is as reliable as advertised. There really hasn't been a single mechnical or engine-related problem with the vehicle over 5 years and 64K miles. It never died unexpectedly, it always starts (in Wisconsin winters), and it always runs as it should.
- It generally gets the mileage I thought it would: seems to average about 31-32MPG, with 60/40 city/highway driving.
- Performance has remained pretty solid for these past 5 years, the car still seems pretty zippy, even with 64K miles on the motor and the clutch.
- Maintenance costs have been really low, and the dealership experience has been awesome. Even taking it to the dealer for most things (even oil changes), there has been so litle that need to be done with the car, that the cost has been really limited. And here in Madison, WI, the Honda dealer is fantastic.
- The suspension sucks. I defended the new Civic's suspension when it came out in '01, but I was wrong. It drives like I would imagine a minivan would: it bounces two or three times after dips the road, and it leans like mad around modest curves. My wife's 04 Subaru Forester (with a somewhat higher center of gravity, and higher-profile tires) handles like a sports car compared to it.
- The build quality of some things should be better. 5 years running now I am somewhat disappointed in the build quality of the car, especially beacuse the Civic is so expensive compared to other brand names. Things rattle like crazy, from the base of the A pillars, to the trunk deck, to the side window wells. The paint is also sub-par: it seems like the wind is blowing paint off the side of my car where the seam of the door meets the body, and I'm even getting small rust spots in the door well. Most importantly the construction of the front seats is terrible: they wobble. The dealer temporarily fixes them but they always start wobbling again (I've had them repaired about 6 times.)
Summary: the 01 Civic is what I needed and expected it to be, but it's not what I hoped it would be. It didn't disappoint me at all, but it has not impressed me as much as I was hoping I'd be impressed. I think it's perfect for anyone wanting a better-quality affordable vehicle, but do not forget that the scales will tip toward affordibility than quality.
#3938 of 4041 Re: 01 Civic 5-year assessment. [devore420]
Feb 09, 2006 (9:46 am)
The suspension sucks. I defended the new Civic's suspension when it came out in '01, but I was wrong. It drives like I would imagine a minivan would: it bounces two or three times after dips the road, and it leans like mad around modest curves.
Was your suspension like that from day one, or did it get worse as time went on? Last summer, I purchased a new '05 Civic EX sedan and so far I've been extremely please with the car. I have not noticed any bounciness or excessive leaning in curves. Hopefully they improved those issues between the '01 and '05 model years. I've also been pleased with the lack of rattles or squeaks. Thanks for the honest assessment, and let me know about the suspension.
#3939 of 4041 Re: 01 Civic 5-year assessment. [civicex05]
Feb 09, 2006 (6:27 pm)
I don't think it was as bad when I bought the car as it is now, but I also don't think it was ever as good as I wanted it to be. When the OEM tires wore out I added new tires with a stiffer sidewall which helped a little on the leaning around turns.
I think I have read that even next year's model (mine is an 01) had an "different" suspension, so I think it's quite possible this problem is eliminated on your model.
01 was also the first year for a new generation of the Civic, which may explain why mine has so many rattles. After 4 more years it's a good bet some of those things are ironed out. Glad you're enjoying your new car.
Feb 11, 2006 (3:16 pm)
Anyone come across this problem yet? Check Engine Light (CEL) stayed on after starting my 2002 Civic DX (sedan, 5spd) with 35K miles the other night. Autozone scan using OBD II found P1607. Service manual says: Engine Control Module (ECM)/Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Internal Circuit Malfunction. Removed #6 fuse (fuse to "brain") for 10 secs, reinstalled, turned ignition key on (position II) for 40 secs as per Service Manual and CEL is still on.
There are no other symptoms, i.e. oil level/pressure is fine, runs fine, coolant level ok, nothing amiss other than the orange/yellow glow of the light.
(1) Does it hurt the car to drive?
(2) Is the brain really bad after only 35K miles?
(3) Any other ideas as to fixes besides replacing the brain?
#3941 of 4041 Replacing Headlights with 2005 Honda Civic EX
Mar 05, 2006 (4:48 pm)
What size, and how many light bulbs do I need to replace the headlights on my Honda Civic 2005 EX?
I am a new owner to a Honda Civic 05 EX. I have been having a difficult time finding and replacing the headlights. I purchased the car with blue headlights. I now realize I can't purchase that light bulb because it is now illegal. I'm fine with that. However, I am not sure what model of bulb I need to replace the headlight with. I have had several trips to Pep Boys and Kragen. I'm not sure if I need a 9005 or a 9006 bulb. In addition to this I was just told that my car needs 6 lightbulbs, 3 on each side. Is that correct?
Mar 08, 2006 (7:03 pm)
i just brought a 2004 honda civic value pkg. coupe. the dealer is installing cruise control and throwing in the floor mats. its an automatic with 19,500 miles. i brought it for $13,300 do you think i paid to much. if so what would be a fair amount. also where can i get the brochure for it and the original msrp.
#3943 of 4041 2000 Honda Civic EX or 2003 Pontiac Vibe
Mar 09, 2006 (9:22 am)
I'm facing a dilemma. I'm looking for a commuter car to put about 22,000 highway miles each year on. I'm contemplating a 2003 Pontiac Vibe w/ 20k miles on it for around $11k or a 2000 Honda Civic EX w/ 70K miles for $6000. I'd prefer not to have a car payment so I'm leaning toward the Civic for that reason. I also see alot of them on the road (even older than a 2000) and most of the ones I see for sale in the same year have as many as 150,000+ miles on them. The only downside is that I think it's crazy to pay almost $6k for a soon to be 7 year old car. I'm kinda drawn to the Vibe as a previous Sunfire owner. I like the sporty looks of the vibe. It's also a semi-Toyota so that's a plus. My husband would prefer me to buy the newer car but I'm at a loss as to which will be better in the long run. I'm not going to use the car for anything else but commuting. What's your take on the situation? Thank you!