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#1673 of 4041 Corolla/Civic price comparisons
Jan 29, 2002 (1:21 pm)
According to CarsDirect.com,
A Civic EX, Options: auto, Side Airbags stickers at $18,500 and sells for $16,944.
A Corolla LE, Options: Auto, ABS, Side Airbags, Cruise Control, All Weather Guard Pkg, Pwr. Moonroof, 6 speaker CD/Cass/AM-FM and 5pc Floor Mats/Trunk Mats, and 15 inch Alloy Wheels has an MSRP of $18,356 and sells for $17,266.
So for the $300 extra bucks, you're getting a couple more speakers, the All Weather Guard pkg, and the much better looking Alloy Wheels. Yea, they are extras, but to me, the Corolla looks like a better deal. Plus, Toyota's warranty is better.
I think Honda should have done more than remove the hump from the rear floor if they planned to keep the Civic at the same level of competitiveness as former generations. IMO, the Focus and Protege are better cars, just not reliable enough. As such, I think this upgraded Corolla should have Honda worried... No doubt, if historic traits continue, the Civic is most likely the more agile and better handling of the two, but the new Corolla's interior is very classy, with a more up market look. And the exterior.. while tall, isnt as boring and evolutionary as the Civic, which looks to me too much like the 1994 version I owned. Finally, the Corolla's engine has been retuned to provide better torque characteristics, which should make a difference in everyday driving (although I have not driven one yet). The Civic EX's VTEC is fun, but sometimes its a pain to have to rev to get good grunt.
Just my .02, considering this has been a hot topic around here lately.
Jan 29, 2002 (1:44 pm)
Ooops! I never mentioned that I live in New Jersey did I ? :o]
Jan 29, 2002 (5:26 pm)
I got a laugh out of your post.
You think it's just fine to pay a measly 200.00 over invoice for a Civic yet you think the mats and mud guards still ought to be thrown in for that price?
What am I missing?
#1676 of 4041 host(s): How about a new topic
Jan 30, 2002 (6:52 am)
Civic vs. Corolla. There is a an archived discussion but as far as I can tell no active one. A better place to discuss these issues, IMO.
Jan 30, 2002 (7:28 am)
I don't mean to get every civic at 200 over invoice anyway but they can adjust 'fair' price of mats & gaurds in the invoice or should FIX the price across the nation.
I have seen dealers charging $150 for mats (includes 50 for installation???) & more than that for the gaurds!! What about that ? Can't they just add that in the invoice ?
Persoanlly I would pay $100 MORE for better dealership & ownership experience. (which I did, I paid $200 more as I like the 'no-games' approach of our dealer.
Isell, It is just supply & demand. They are charging MSRp + for the Odysseys!! There are n number of Civics seating on the lot!
#1678 of 4041 NOp (Civic vs Corolla)
Jan 30, 2002 (7:29 am)
Please don't start the topic.....untill Toyota gets a bit more serious about Corolla...NOT just the 'bulletproof relibility' )
#1679 of 4041 Buying and Selling
Jan 30, 2002 (9:25 am)
The dealer to customer game has been the same all these years. With a possible exception to buying from Saturn or a no haggle dealer, buying a vehicle is not a retail store experience.
The buyers will be scoped out and the sales person determines how informed the customer is going to be and how much $ they can get above fair market price. All of us Edmunds educated car buyers will definitely fall under the informed category, A.K.A. "cheap skates." So if anyone wants to haggle the price of a Civic to $200 over invoice and still want car mats thrown in for free; go for it!
#1680 of 4041 RE: 2003 Corolla
Jan 30, 2002 (10:42 am)
The review I read was in Motor Trend as well as an online review (The Car Connection). the Car Connection liked the ride of the Corolla but was not happy with the engine. Very little if any improvement from previous generations. Also the Civic was 5th in car sales for 2001 (www.honda200.com), most for any compact car for the 5th year in a row. So much for everyone complaining and not liking the new Civic.
The Corolla is not going take many sales from the Civic. Considering none of us has actually driven a 2003, we can only base our opinions on what is written. Based on what i've read, the Civic doesn't have to worry about the Corolla. The Vibe/Matrix could be another story. The competition for the Civic is the Focus and Elantra. Focus because it's the only car in the class that can match the Civic for interior space AND offer a better ride and handling but it's reliability (or perceived reliability) keeps it from selling more. The Elantra is about equal to the Civic in ride and handling but I found I had more room in the Civic and let's not talk about reliability. No other car in the class can beat the Civic on all four fronts (interior, ride, handling and reliability). Having test driven the Elantra and Civic back to back, the only reason I can see buying the Elantra is the price and the warranty. Not a bad car at all but the Civic was better.
Jan 31, 2002 (9:05 am)
By all means...just don't get upset when your offer isn't accepted!
#1682 of 4041 Wheel well openings
Feb 02, 2002 (4:09 am)
I know this is a Civic forum, but as an owner of a 02 Cr-v I understand the front wheel well openings in the two vehicles are similar. Have any new Civic owners had problems like road salt or snow or even dirt being let in the engine compartment by these openings? I realize the entire bottom of the engine is open but is not subjected to what the tires throw up in the wheel wells. Any experience or opinions would be appreciated.