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#1271 of 4041 new to board not to Honda
Oct 01, 2001 (7:09 pm)
I would like to know if anyone has the invoice pricing for the 2002 Lx and Ex sedans. I am going to be buying an EX most likely and I heard that even though the MSRP only went up $100 from last year the actual invoice price has risen. I am only willing to pay $200-300 over invoice which is the price from carsdirect and seems reasonable. For a 2001 EX I would pay $16.5-16.6 for it, so I was thinking only $100 more for a 2002, does that seem reasonable? I'll just buy online if I can't get a decent offer from the dealers in my area.
Just a note on how long a civic can last...I have a 1990 Civic DX sedan with 181,500 miles on it, aside from some minor repairs and the A/C which I gave up fixing it still runs like a champ. I am going to try and sell it instead of a trade. I had put it in the paper a few months ago for around $1500 and people were falling over themselves to buy it even with the "classic" Honda rust from that era! So when I put it back in the paper this time it will be for $2200 obo, and hopefully I'll get at least $1500 for it.
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated, but go easy since I am new. Thanks.
#1272 of 4041 2002 Civic Sedan invoices
Oct 02, 2001 (3:54 am)
Manual - Retail $13,010 | Invoice $11,897.72
Automatic - Retail $13,810 | Invoice $12,627.48
Civic DX S-SRS
Manual - Retail $13,260 | Invoice $12,125.77
Automatic - Retail $14,060 | Invoice $12,855.53
Manual - Retail $15,110 | Invoice $13,813.34
Automatic - Retail $15,910 | Invoice $14,543.10
Civic LX S-SRS
Manual - Retail $15,360 | Invoice $14,041.39
Automatic - Retail $16,160 | Invoice $14,771.15
Manual - Retail $17,010 | Invoice $15,546.52
Automatic - Retail $17,810 | Invoice $16,276.28
Civic EX S-SRS
Manual - Retail $17,260 | Invoice $15,774.57
Automatic - Retail $18,060 | Invoice $16,504.33
Oct 02, 2001 (6:04 pm)
Thank you Twist!
I printed your post out 1 hour before I went to the dealer and negotiated a 2002 LX Sedan Auto for $15,287 + tax, plates ($36) and they want a dealer conveance fee of $189 but I am not paying that. I have to sell my civic first and then put a downpayment on the new one so nothing is firm except the price of the car which I had them put in writing. $300 over invoice not too shabby, even beats the new carsdirect.com price by $200! Now I just have to choose between silver or black.
I am so excited - can you tell I haven't had a new car in a while?? By the way I drove the 2002 LX and they gave me a 2001 LX as a loaner (while they fix my hood release on my 1990) and the suspension fix in the 2002 is very noticeable. I recommend to anyone worried about the bouncy ride to get a 2002, even on my ride home in the 2001 I noticed the bounce.
#1274 of 4041 2002 Civic Sedan
Oct 02, 2001 (6:52 pm)
Has anyone with a 2001 Civic Sedan had a chance to drive a 2002 model? I am wondering if the changes to the suspension, steering and sound deadening have a made a good car even better to drive.
#1275 of 4041 2002 Canadian Civic LX
Oct 02, 2001 (7:13 pm)
I had the opportunity to test drive the 2002 Canadian Civic LX last weekend. First the changes:
Most of the LX changes listed on the US pages were already in the Canadian 2001 LX. What was not added in Canada but was added in the US is the chrome interior door handles and the center console with the covered drink holder area. I am guessing this was intentional as these are available in the more expensive Acura EL
Significant improvements in ride. I had driven the 2001 LX and was not impressed with road behavior and with rear handling of bumps. I drove hard and slow over gravel, uneven road, and several sets of tracks. The new rear stabilizer makes a big diff here for cornering. The bounce did not seem obvious as it did on the 2001.
2.) 15" wheels
Part of the improved ride is the cdn LX now comes with 15" steel wheels. Still crappy Firestones however.
Gauges were white instead of black. I thought I would like this but when I saw it, I thought it looked king of crappy. Not a big stinker but not the improvement I wanted.
As mentioned I saw no changes to the cdn LX interior outside of the white gauges. It still looks kind of cheap on the inside. For some reason almost all of the exterior colors come with a beige interior. The new red is nice but would look way better with grey interior as opposed to beige.
Price: Cdn MSRP went up 200$
Nice little car, could use a little more polish in the interior.
Personally, I am going to wait to see the specs on the 2002 Acura EL before I decide. It used to be for an extra 2500 cdn you got a lot more car (vtec, 4discs, fancy interior, security system, nicer exterior shape, alloys etc). Plus not every car you see on the street is an EL. In Canada the civic is the best selling car and is everywhere.
Oct 03, 2001 (4:41 am)
and thanks for your impressions regarding the adjustments they've made to the 2002's.
Choosing between Silver & Black...you can't go wrong with either, IMHO.
Are you having any options put on the LX? I'm having math trouble with the figures you gave (hardly the first time I've had math trouble, so it could just be me).
Congrats again! $300 over invoice makes the Civic LX a very good value.
#1277 of 4041 to my canadian friends....
Oct 03, 2001 (8:45 am)
how different is the civic from the EL? Is itht e canadian vversion of the rsx? If possible could you send me a pic of one at subarudude2aol.com.
#1278 of 4041 2001 Honda Civic EX Questions...
Oct 03, 2001 (1:35 pm)
Hi, I'm wondering if anything is wrong with my son's fairly new Honda Civic. He commented and I noticed, too that the ride is fairly bouncy. I know it's been said a lot here that the bouncy ride of the 2001 is bad, but it is a little ridiculous that when I drive over train tracks, the whole rear end bounce up and down. My Toyota Avalon and my wife's Town & Country minivan do niether of this.
He and I also noticed that going over the hump to our driveway at about 5 mph causes a clucking sound coming from the front of the car. You literally have to take the shallow driveway hump at 1 mph to make sure it doesn't sound like you're beating the whole car to death. I'm guessing that the clunking sounds I'm hearing from sometimes the front and back is just the car's suspension, correct?
Also, other than some rattles, the automatic transmission makes a clicking noise heard from the outside of the car just after shifting into a drive. I remember when he and I took his car in for its second recall, I was outside watching the service man drive it to one of the service bays, I could distinctly hear a strange click within 5 seconds of him shifting his car into drive.
But truly, other than those couple of issues, and the fact that the front end has a very low clearance (6 inches), which results in getting scraped quite often when pulling up to the parking spaces with blocks higher than 6 inches, the car is great for him. The mileage is great, and the car is very nimble, and even quick. I'm just wondering if some of the issues I talked of can be fixed, and whether the 2002 is free of the annoying bouncy ride over bumps. Thanks!
#1279 of 4041 more on my 2002 pursuit
Oct 03, 2001 (7:46 pm)
I have been talking to a few more dealers, and I may actually get a better deal than I originally listed. I have a dealer in RI that will do the whole thing over the net and they charge only $200 over invoice with $100 in free accessories, and only a $20 application fee (they can't charge any more by law in RI). So my breakdown is like this:
$14,543 invoice for LX auto sedan
$ 440 destination
$ 200 over invoice
$ 20 application fee
$15,203 TOTAL + plates and tax
Not too shabby!
I am going to get mats and a cargo net and then put in an aftermarket in dash cd player. I think I am going with an mp3 cd player, so I am not going to get the honda in dash cd. Other than that no other options right now, maybe alloys and fog lights down the road some time. I actually decided to get the new ruby red, I never thought I would like a red especially with a tan interior but it has grown on me...besides everyone and their mother has a silver one!
Hope that clears up the math problem for you.
Oct 04, 2001 (5:20 am)
i was wondering if you were to go to honda dealer and have the struts replaced under warranty. obviously the car is bouncing, and it is not what it should do.