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Used E320 or E430 by konocar400h
Aug 30, 2007 (4:06 pm)
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I'm looking into the purchase of a used E320 or E430 for my son and i was wondering what was the best model year for an e class for below 15,000 dollars. Any advice would be appreciated
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Re: Used E320 or E430 [konocar400h] by garyh1
Aug 31, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: konocar400h (Aug 30, 2007 4:06 pm)

Look for a 2001 or 2002. I just got an '01 E430 from a friend by matching the offer they got from Carmax - $11,000. I have put a couple thousand $ into it to put in in top shape, so that puts it in line with your budget. My wife is driving it now, but it's probably going to be passed down to my teenage son as soon as we figure out what the next car my wife or I will get. It's probably a bit more powerful than he needs, but it is a very safe car.
 
It's a great car, but be prepared to spend money on maintenance. We just had one of the infamous window regulators die, which cost $375 to replace!
 
Stay away from the current model W211 (starting with 2003) - worst reliability ever in a MB.
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211 reliabilty by greasykid1
Aug 31, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Do not believe that it is fair to paint all 211's as unreliable. Have an early 2005 E320CDI with all extras that were available at the time. ---$15,000 worth. Car is now 3 yrs old with No problems. Agree that 2003's were a big problem and some 2004's. My son has a 2006 E350 that is now 2 yrs old and has many option--including air suspension and no problems. Between the 2 of us we have had 24 MB's so believe we can make a fair judgement.Believe that the turning point was the 2005 models
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Re: Used E320 or E430 [garyh1] by carnaught
Aug 31, 2007 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Aug 31, 2007 8:04 am)

Stay away from the current model W211 (starting with 2003) - worst reliability ever in a MB.
 
Not necessarily. My 2003 gave me two years of no problems as has my current '07 at one year thus far.
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Re: Used E320 or E430 [carnaught] by microrepair
Sep 03, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Aug 31, 2007 5:39 pm)

To the last 2 or 3 contributors who say they had no problems with their W211's...
 
How many miles did you put on them in the 2 or 3 years you owned them?
 
The reason I ask is that both my 1996 and 2001 had no problems at all until they got up into the 70K-80K mile range and then they had some serious problems. My 2001 E320, which now has 98K miles, has had a failed wheel bearing (I haven't heard of ANYONE having a failed wheel bearing in more than 25 years !!), both catalytic converters, the down tilting rearview passenger mirror that has been fixed twice and still makes some weird little noises and jerky movements until it is turned off, front suspension bushings, control panel LED failures (replaced entire panel), and on and on.. And all of it started at about the 70K mile mark. I am so glad it had Starmark coverage, otherwise would have cost me $3-4K for all that work. My 1996 E320 was somewhat better, which fits in with the idea that their quality level is dropping with the newer models.
 
So if you only have 30-40K miles on them, IMHO you haven't had them long enough to see any real problems.
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Re: Used E320 or E430 [microrepair] by carnaught
Sep 04, 2007 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: microrepair (Sep 03, 2007 7:58 pm)

You say that unless I have "only 30-40K miles on them" I haven't had them long enough to see "real problems". Then you say that you had "no real problems...until they got up into the 70K-80K mile range". Sounds to me like you did well considering your 30-40K mile cut-off. Were they bought new?
 
Me, I put on 18-20K miles per year and I simply don't keep my cars more than two years, with some exceptions.
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Sport Package Nightmare by ny1
Sep 06, 2007 (7:49 pm)
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Has anyone had tire/rim and shock issues on their E350 w/sport package? I have already blown a shock after hitting a pothole that barely qualified as such and have damaged my rims so many times just driving over normal local road and highway defects that I'm reconsidering my purchase decision. Now I know why they gave away the sport package -- otherwise a $2k option -- for free . . . since all of the repairs keep the dealer's repair department flush in Marks. Of course, since I declined the $800 optional tire and rim package in one of the 30 sheets of paper I signed when leasing the car, they tell me I'm SOL. What a scam. Anyone else have similar experiences?
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Re: Used E320 or E430 [carnaught] by microrepair
Sep 09, 2007 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Sep 04, 2007 6:33 pm)

"Sounds to me like you did well considering your 30-40K mile cut-off. Were they bought new?"
 
I bought both with mid-30K miles on them and a Starmark warranty. Not sure what you mean by the above statement regarding a "30-40K mile cut-off".
 
What I was trying to say is that almost any car these days will run reliably for the first 30-40K miles. If you only keep a car that long you probably will never see any problems. I also put 18-20K per year on my primary car (currently the 2001 E320) and usually keep my cars at least 4 years even when bought used. I kept my 96 E320 until it had 140K. My 2001 now has 99K and I plan to keep it for about another year or about 120K miles.
 
As I said in my previous note, my 2001 has been much less reliable than the 1996 which, in my case, indicates a drop in quality over a 5 year period for MB. And many others have noted that their 2003-4 models have already proven to be less reliable than their older models also. Seems to be a trend.....
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To deal or no deal...... by blkhemi
Sep 16, 2007 (8:20 am)
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I recently "adopted" my nephew who is graduating from Yale this year.
 
For his graduation gift, I was looking into getting him a nicely used mid-lux ride.
 
Well, I have a close friend who is in the market to sell his well-cared for 2002 E320.
 
Was this a good year for the final year of this model? What should I expect to pay (only 32k miles in impecable condition). What are some of the pros and cons of this model. Myself, as far as MB's goes, I've usally bought S-Classes, and so have little knowledge of the E-Classes, although most people I talk to say they're generally good cars. So what's your take?
 
B.
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My Mercedes 2004 E500 4matic self destructs... by gotripped
Sep 16, 2007 (10:50 am)
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I got cheated by Mercedes, as my E500 2004 developed rust on the undercarraige to a large degree, so much so that the company sent a rep (thief) out to void my warranty. They really owe me about 30 thousand dollars, but now the car is worthless because they voided the warranty. It is so rusted the shocks collapsed and it needs new springs (2000 dollars). This company Mercedes is so crooked they are bound to go out of business. I am a successful physician in Michigan and I don't do anything extraordinary with my cars. I own a 2006 750Li BMW that runs perfectly, and above all I get great service. I have never, ever, seen a car company cheat me or anybody else as bad as Mercedes has cheated me.

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