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Re: Price 2007 versus 2008 [fishfools] by bazohimba
Jul 02, 2007 (1:16 am)
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Replying to: fishfools (Jun 04, 2007 7:20 pm)

It's hard to know for sure what the 'deals' are, as many have the urge to brag or exaggerate their deal. I would think that $800 over invoice is a good price on an '07. If the car has what you want, it sounds pretty good. If it sits on the lot for a while, it may be had for less.
 
My deal is for one I wanted exactly and finding an E320 diesel isn't easy if you want certain things, like the P2 package. The price is based on 4% off MSRP. The actual price isn't known yet, as MB hasn't released the '08 cars yet. Go figure!! My problem is getting a good price for my '05 Cadillac STS4. Hear the usual "They're not selling well right now" excuse.
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Re: Price 2007 versus 2008 [fishfools] by tron1
Jul 04, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: fishfools (Jun 04, 2007 7:20 pm)

I don't think there is any real change between to 07 to 08. I recent bought the e350 4matic 900 dollars under dealer invoice. Had the sport package plus the p1 option. also bought the bluetooth for my phone. Great car I love it. test drove the BMW 2008 535xi, like the car but wasn't comfortable in the cabin, felt very large to me. felt more comfortable in the E350, so I bought it. Dealer finance 2.9 6yrs. The BMW didn't have good financing only got 6.9 from them plus they didn't discount because it was a new 2008. Also i believe BMW controls their inventory better than MB. Its alot of money for a car but I really enjoy it. I bought my car in New Jersey. The dealership was great, second car I bought from them.
MB is going to redesign the E in 2010. Only difference between the 06 and 07 is the front grille and side mirrors.
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2 flat tires in two months by cychang
Jul 12, 2007 (10:55 pm)
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I got a 2007 E-350 with sport package- first flat at 743 miles in May and 2nd flat at 1650 miles in June, both at city street- both Mercedes-Benz and Continental tire ( German made?) are dening any responsibilities- more than $500 out of the window! Any suggestion? advice? CY
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Re: 2 flat tires in two months [cychang] by shipo
Jul 13, 2007 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: cychang (Jul 12, 2007 10:55 pm)

Yup, situation normal. Every manufacturer (Mercedes included) that offers low profile "Sport" tires include a disclaimer that they are much more susceptible to damage from pot-holes, curbs and generally poor condition roads. In your case just be glad that you haven't damaged any wheels (yet), that’s when things start getting really expensive.
 
Sorry I couldn't be of more help on this but Mercedes and Continental are correct, it isn't their responsibility.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 2 flat tires in two months [cychang] by habitat1
Jul 14, 2007 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: cychang (Jul 12, 2007 10:55 pm)

I'd agree with Shipo, MB and Continental are probably not technically responsible, but...
 
...I've logged 15,500 miles over 21 months on a Porsche 911S with a fair number of city miles in Washington DC without any flats or problems on 235/35 and 295/30 19" W rated tires. (The rears were replaced due to tread wear at 12,600 miles - but that is considered normal and the tread wear was very even).
 
I suggest that when it comes time to replace the Continentals, you shop around and do some research. Continentals are generally considered to be the worst quality brand of tire, at least for higher performance tires. I have Pirelli's on my 911, but Michelin's were also highly recommended by my dealer.
 
Another consideration might be to go for a harder compound in a H or V rated tire next time around (assuming sizes match). The E350 is a sedan, not a sports car and I seriously doubt that too many people could tell the difference in handling between a good H/V rated tire and a W/Y/Z rated one. If they can, they should probably be driving an E63 (or, better yet, 911S).
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Sport Package - Do the Math by habitat1
Jul 14, 2007 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jul 14, 2007 6:16 am)

As a general comment to those considering the sport package on an E350, you might want to factor in tire replacement costs into the equation. According to Tire Rack, the 18" Sport Package tires, in Michelin Pilot Sports, will run about $1,150 a set, not including shipping or installation (figure $1,400 installed). Life expectancy = 12-15k miles (cannot be rotated). The standard 17" tires, in Pirelli's will run about $600 a set (figure $750 installed). Life expectancy 35k+ miles (can be rotated).
 
A golfing buddy of mine recently bought a E350 Sport off the lot, rather than a E550 non-sport. Part of his reason was the better gas mileage for the E350. He got the sport package, because he liked the look and they had it in the color and other options that he wanted. On the 19th hole, I bet him that the additional tire cost on his E350 Sport would eat up all of the gas savings from not going with the E550. He drives 15-18k miles a year and plans on keeping the car 6 years, 100k miles (bought an extended warranty).
 
Here are the numbers we came up with:
 
Gas Savings: E550 average mpg = 18; E350 average = 23. (His estimate from talking with other owners with similar driving habits). For 100k miles = 5,555 gals in E550 vs. 4,350 in E350. Gas savings with E350 = $4,000 +/- (1,205 gallons at $3.35).
 
Added Tire Cost: 100k miles = 6 sets of replacement tires at total of $1,400 per set on E350 = $8,400. 2-3 sets of replacements at $750 total on E550 = $1,500 - $2,250. Difference = $6,200 to $6,900.
 
So, for anyone considereing getting an E350 over an E550 because of gas prices, you might want to hold off on the Sport Package, since it is very likely to cost you substantially more (50-75% more by our calculations) than the gas savings you will get with the 6 vs. 8 cylinder engine. A 30% savings at the gas pump gas won't cover a 400%+ increase in tire costs.
 
Feel free to check my math. My number crunching friend did several ways and I won the 19th hole drinks and dinner bet.
 
P.S. Perhaps this is why the Sport Package is free. If I were Pirelli or Michilen, I'd give you those larger rims for free and make it up in selling tires. Kind of like the $99 HP printer that takes $50 in ink catridges every 2 months.
 
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Posts moved by pat HOST
Jul 16, 2007 (3:57 am)
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Um, not sure why we were discussing TL tires here, but I moved the posts to the right discussion: laurasdada, "Acura TL Tires and Wheels" #225, 14 Jul 2007 3:48 pm.

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