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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
#6369 of 6720 birdbird
Jan 11, 2006 (9:52 pm)
Yes, the entire E-Class line will get a facelift. As far as the details, I'd say check out what they did for 2005 to the C-Class compared to 2004 or what they did to the CLK for 2006 compared to 2005. Just minor changes to trim, bumpers, lights, wheels that sort of thing. Now there are rumors that the E will get a more radical facelift because of all the new competition, but I'm not sure. There are some photos on various sites that say that the E will get the usual Benz blink-and-u-might-miss-it style facelift. The engines are a definite, no change for the E350 since the V6 was new for 2006 anyway.
I would say the biggest changes are going to be to the interior - just my guess. Whenever a new S-Class comes out some of its features start to trickle down to the other models eventually.
#6370 of 6720 Designo, Airmatic
Jan 17, 2006 (12:00 pm)
I searched the whole forum and found really nothing about this option. Is the leather softer than the base? Does it perhaps look and smell like leather. The leather in the test drive I was almost like vinyl. I really like expresso and granite designo options. But is this option just a total waste when resale time comes?
I had air suspension on my Lexus LS and could not tell the difference between it and the regular suspension. Does the benz airmatic give a softer ride or is it most just to keep the car level in turns and lower at high speeds?
#6372 of 6720 Re: Follow-up question [birdbird]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:30 am)
Check out this link. This site is very reliable. The changes are slight and don't affect the lines at all. I have had my E350 for five months and I can tell you its simply a sheer joy to drive and look at. I still get a thrill at the end of each workday when I know its time drive the E home. MB has addressed their quality problems. Buy this car! The W211 is IMHO, one of the great car designs MB has ever done.
#6373 of 6720 There is one big change
Jan 21, 2006 (8:32 am)
They're changing back to hydraulic operated brakes.
#6374 of 6720 Bye Bye 2006 M35x, Hello E350
Jan 22, 2006 (12:14 pm)
I bought a 2006 Infinity M35x last June. I loved it for about 3 weeks. It has every technology the industry has to offer from adaptive cruise to a rear seat DVD player. It replaced my 2004 Lexus LS. I still have trouble putting my finger on why I so quickly grew to hate it. I suppose the performance tuned exhaust might have been the most notable.
A growing list of small things just started to fester. The heated and cooled seats did very little heating and cooling. The speech rec couldn't understand my "4" or "illinois" so I couldn't use speech for the bluetooth phone or the navigation. The car seemed louder than it should be 60mph. The mpg was a disappointing 16. (My big LS V8 got 19.) The radio presets had an awkward arrangement. I missed rain sensing wipers. The adaptive cruise was nice, but in 6 months I was only able to benefit from it once. The real rosewood looked cheap to me. The trunk was tiny and felt cheap. That buttons on the "ATM" style console would look cheaper and bigger with every passing day.
The M does have some advantages over the E. The backup camera is excellent. The navigation has a big high screen with a gorgeous bird-eye view. The bang for the buck is a lot better and I expect the M is more reliable.
But I'm looking forward to the quieter and more elegant E. I'm looking forward to real heated seats, burlwood, rain sensor and 7 speed tranny. I ordered all the options except the panaromic roof. I'll make do with parktronic and last generation navigation. Little things like the wood steering wheel, power trunk opener and full iPod integration hold more value to me than bluetooth or speech rec.
#6375 of 6720 Re: Bye Bye 2006 M35x, Hello E350 [edspider1]
Jan 22, 2006 (12:51 pm)
Very interesting switch. My guess would be that you really didn't want a sedan that wears "sport" on it sleeves like the Infiniti M does.
#6376 of 6720 Re: Bye Bye 2006 M35x, Hello E350 [edspider1]
Jan 23, 2006 (12:37 am)
Are you sure you want to get a E350? After owning 2 MB products 2 years in a row, I am very disappointed at Mercedes.
Currently have a 04 E-320, bought it new and have nothing but recalls after recalls on the car. Eventhough it is under warranty but it is still a hassle to make time to bring the car in to the dealership.
I thought it is pretty ridiculous for a car that costs over 50K. Everytime when I hear someone says "nice car", I just reply "not really, it's just a over priced hunk of junk".
As of right now my E 320 only has 9000 miles on the odometer and it is a weekend car that has never been driven in the rain. This vehicle has really been pampered and during the last recall when I dropped it off at the dealership and told them that the vehicle pulls to the right, they say it's still under warranty and they will take care of it. To my surprise, they said the wheel alignment is under warranty but needed "camber plates" to set the alignment straight. Guess what? the parts costs $220. and the warranty does not cover it.
What an embarrassment!!! I also have an 03 Toyota Camry with almost 60,000 miles on the odometer. Zero recalls and zero problems on that car, and until now, did not even need a wheel alignment!
Believe you me, I will never buy another MB product ever again! As soon as I can get rid of this " over priced under engineered hunk of junk" I will go with Infiniti or Lexus. The Germans has a lot to learn from the Asian car makers if they want to stay ahead of the game and most importantly, stay in business...
#6377 of 6720 Re: Bye Bye 2006 M35x, Hello E350 [phils68]
Jan 23, 2006 (5:09 am)
Too bad that you dislike MB. For the record, I have owned or own 4 MB autos since 1994; C280, C320, E320 & E320 CDI. They have all been great autos with only minor problems. My wife and I looked and drove a Lexus but didn't care for it. I have had several Fords, General Motors, Mazdas & Toyotas and I prefer the MB to any of them. Purchasing and driving autos must be a personal preference; however, some seem to "bad mouth" that which they dislike!
#6378 of 6720 Re: Bye Bye 2006 M35x, Hello E350 [tomotomo]
Jan 23, 2006 (8:48 am)
I'm somewhere between Spider and Tomato in that I've had 3 MBs and 2 Lexui. I like driving the MBs better (presently '01 E-320) but must admit that their reliability leaves something to be desired. No where near the problems Spider seems to have incurred. Yes, there is a lot of subjectivity in personal preference but at the same time, there's no doubt in my mind that MB has some serious quality problems and that Lexus makes a more reliable car.