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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
Oct 14, 2005 (1:17 pm)
Where to begin! I will not be renewing my 2002 Mercedes E-Class in December, it is the forth Mercedes we have owned. Two of the previous cars were fine examples, but the last two have not been. The current car has had four recalls, been twice on a pick-up truck (electrical issues) and had high pressure fuel pump, hose, radio and gearbox problems. As if all this were not enough it rattles in the dash & from the panoramic sunroof, and has a knocking from the rear that the dealers have never located, not bad for a car costing $66,000 . As for the dealers they have been the good the bad & the ugly. The ugly were Mercedes UK owned units.
Needless to say I have a BMW 530D SE on order, it cannot come soon enough.
#6318 of 6720 '04 E320 engine braking?#!
Oct 14, 2005 (2:13 pm)
among other things, I've been really unhappy with this 'engine braking' system which feels like the brakes are being applied every time I ease off the gas pedal. Its bad all the time and especially drivng up an incline. MB tells me the car computer systerm is sensing and conforming to the driver's habits. uh, ok. We're talking about very easy driving habits, not even stop-n-go rush hour, just normal driving. Ive had the car about 16 months and have 12,000 miles on it. Also, just had the car in for the first service as notified by the dashboard computer, and my rear brakes rotors and pads had to be redone! at first they were going to charge me about $800, but I went ballistic so MB covered the cost...even they admitted the brakes should not wear out after 12,000 miles. I bought this car, my first MB, thinking 'ok, I'll step up to buy something that will be reliable and that I can keep for many years considering the low mileage we use' Any one out there shed some light on this problem? had a cousin just lease an '06 E350 and when she told the dealer about my problems with the '04 E320, they said something like 'oh, those were problems with that car but they've been worked out now' I havent driven the E350, but she said it drives like a dream and none of this krap-o-la that Im dealing with. thoughts appreciated
#6319 of 6720 Re: Two and half month old [ray00edm]
Oct 18, 2005 (8:56 pm)
Thanks for your reply re: the tire pressure monitor.
Actually, it is no longer an offered option on the MBZ, so you are lucky you have it!
I was looking seriously at an '05 that had that feature.
Instead I ended up ordering a new car- the price on the used one was nearly that of the new one, and I couldn't see the point- might as get exactly what I want- although the tire pressure monitor no longer available...
Glad you are still alive and here to tell your story!
#6320 of 6720 Re: Cats [muddog]
Oct 29, 2005 (12:42 pm)
How is $33,500 for a 2002 E430 4-matic w/33k miles, navigation, xenon lights, cd, integrated phone, heated leather seats, etc?
It's from a dealer. It's Cert Pre-Owned and he's throwing another year of warranty on top of the 1yr/100kmile CPO warranty that you get automatically.
#6321 of 6720 older Navigation systems in Mercedes
Nov 01, 2005 (10:17 am)
Anyone know what year Mercedes switched from the CD-rom-based nav system to the GPS system in the E-class? My mom is looking for a used E320 (probably '01-02) and wants it to have a nav system (good luck, I know), but I told her not to bother with one if it's the CD-rom version, I heard they're terrible.
Nov 01, 2005 (11:55 am)
2001-2 will have the old system.
Nov 01, 2005 (5:51 pm)
I brought my 2000 E320 (119k miles) in to Mercedes for service A. When I had driven 6 miles from the dealership, I get a warning Oil Level, Reduce Oil Level (in red letters no less). I call the service guy and he says it's no big deal, probably just a little high, can't cause any problems, but if I bring it by they can lower the level. I didn't want to spend the 2 plus hours I'm sure that would have taken, so I haven't gone back. Now I'm not getting that msg but of course am getting the ever present Check Engine message. Should I be worried and gut out the hours it will take them to correct this?
#6324 of 6720 Re: Oil Level [houstonmerc]
Nov 01, 2005 (10:47 pm)
If it was my car, I'd have it back there in a heartbeat. No reason it should take 2 hours, especially if they already had the car in- should be 10 minutes max. Besides, why risk screwing up your engine? Obviously the car thinks something is wrong. They should be test driving/running the car after the oil change anyway- and rechecking oil level afterward, esp if they have changed the filter.
Was the Check Engine light on prior?
Just Do It.
#6325 of 6720 Re: Oil Level [blissful]
Nov 02, 2005 (7:52 am)
Thanks for the comments. I agree that it "should" take 10 minutes, but that's not been my experience with Mercedes service. That's one reason I'll probably get an Infiniti M45 next year. I have not been that happy with Mercedes service and I increasingly don't understand the premium they charge for cars that are not any better than (or as good as?) others that cost much less. I do have to say though that I'm happy that I've got 119k miles and have not had any major mechanical problems, although the maintenance I have had has sure been expensive.
#6326 of 6720 Re: Oil Level [houstonmerc]
Nov 02, 2005 (10:10 am)
"I increasingly don't understand the premium they charge for cars that are not any better than (or as good as?) others that cost much less."
Actually, it makes perfect sense. Anybody that builds a "widget" for a living has to take into account Warranty Cost. That is, the cost that you carry to fix the widget in the field. So on top of a company like Mercedes having extremely high manufacturing costs, they have to build in the Warranty cost in as well.
Add up your stack of receipts that cost you nothing (but time and inconvenience) during the factory warranty period and you'll see EXACTLY why these are more expensive than their competition.