Last post on May 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM
You are in the Mercedes-Benz E-Class
What is this discussion about?
Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
#5904 of 6720 Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [jmatone]
Sep 01, 2004 (6:17 am)
I have some NEWs for you too! I own a 2002 C320 and a 2005 E320 CDI and have no problems with either. Previously I owned a 1995 C280 and a 2001 E320 and had only two problems with the C280, replaced front brake pads, failed fuel pump after about 5 years and one problem with the E320, replacement under warranty of the instrument cluster due to a defective outside temperature display. Do you suppose the taxi drivers in Euorpe have MBs because the need them on the road instead of in the shop? Anyway, who cares what Euorpeans drive?
#5905 of 6720 The Europeans
Sep 01, 2004 (7:22 am)
I have been to Europe a few times and I like it when I get the "Mercedes" cab. When chatting with the drivers, they buy them because they can get way over 200,000 miles on them with little trouble. I was in Spain this year and the driver had a 2000 E-class diesel but the odometer was in kilometers which showed 407,000 kilometers. That's about 250,000 miles right? This car was SO clean I was shocked and had to look at the odometer again to make sure.
Sep 01, 2004 (1:29 pm)
I just sold a 96 E320 4 months ago with 140,000 miles on the odometer. Until it hit 115,000 there was only one problem: the rubber bushings in the front end sway bars and tie rod ends had to be replaced. It was done under the Starmark warranty. At 115K it needed shocks, serpentine belt, and brake rotors and pads, none of which are failures; but wear items.. It did need some serious repairs around 120K; head gasket and water pump. But after all that work it ran and felt like a brand new car. And it looked great for a 7 year old car; people were amazed it was so old when they saw it. That's one of the major features of a Mercedes; they look good for far longer than any other car.
tomotomo mentioned brake pads as a problem. I beg to differ. All cars need brake pads on a fairly regular basis; MB a little sooner than most. But they are a WEAR item, not a problem. So tomotomo's cars were even better than he thought.!
When I sold the 96 I bought a lightly used 2001 that is so much better in every way. It's got the ESP, ASR, radio controls on the steering wheel (I am not sure that many cars offered that feature back in 96 and 97?), it rides smoother, handles better, and is much quieter. And the V6 seems stronger, but it could be the 5-speed tranny vs. the 4-speed in the 96. And I hear that the 2003/4 model is even better yet..! I can hardly wait to buy a 2005 in 2007..!
Either you got one of their rare lemons or it was a Chevy with the MB logo on it..?
#5908 of 6720 It's a good thing......
Sep 03, 2004 (3:09 am)
That after years of building pure crap that the American manufacturers are building some cars that have decent reliability. In general the American manufacturers have singinicantly improved their reliability while the Germans have added significant complexity (particularly in the area of electronics) without the maintaining previous standards of quality control over the additional complexity. The bottom line is they still drive better than anything else on the road and yes unfortunatly there is a greater likelyhood of visiting the shop than some American cars.
#5910 of 6720 body damage, help
Sep 07, 2004 (8:20 pm)
i drove my beloved e320 over a curb and cracked the panel below the passenger side door.(it is flimsy plastic, to my surprise). is this a costly item to replace? thanks
#5911 of 6720 Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [jblaze1]
Sep 08, 2004 (7:19 am)
FYI, you didn't burst my bubble! Just because you got a lemon, assuming you did, it doesn't mean all MBs are. My experience with 5 MBs have been very good, much better than with a previous Cadillac SLS.
#5912 of 6720 Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [tomotomo]
Sep 14, 2004 (5:56 pm)
I had a 97 C280, 2yrs,50,000 miles. Mercedes bought the car back as a LEMON. They gave me a great deal on a new 99 ML430. I kept it for a year, 30,000 miles (lots of squeaks and rattles) and ended up trading it in for a Chevy Suburban.
Chevy Suburban.. 2 yrs and 60,000 miles and no problems. Go figure.
I now have a Volvo XC90 T6. 6 months and 20,000 miles. Great car. My wife has a 01 E320 wagon...little problems here and there. Her lease is up soon. I had better luck with the Chevy.
#5913 of 6720 Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [tyee1]
Sep 14, 2004 (7:05 pm)
But, I have to ask for an honest answer:
Can you honestly say that the Suburban doesn't drive like the Love Boat and look like it was designed by a committee of blind engineers??
I hear what you are saying about the dissapointing reliability and quality control of your Mercedes. The pre 2003 ML series was generally recognized as the worst Mercedes ever. But no matter how bad a Mercedes was, I wouldn't be pushed, kicked, or prodded into a Chevy. For God's sake there are Hondas, Acuras, Toyotas, Lexus and Nissans to choose from.
Saying that the Chevy Suburban doesn't rattle or have maintenance problems is like marrying the Circus fat lady because she doesn't have hairy legs. Yeah, but she's still fat.