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#5565 of 6720 Euro delivery / E320 CDI
Jan 26, 2004 (11:42 am)
I was just informed by a friend who is a leasing agent with Mercedes that the European Delivery program was revised two weeks ago to give a 7% discount off MSRP. All information I've seen on the web seems to indicate a 5% discount. Anyone know the answer. That extra $1,000 between 5% and 7% has me thinking European Delivery is worth considering.
Also, I'm considering an E320 CDI assuming it is available late spring or summer through ED. I know the CDI will be "hot" for awhile and little if any price discounting for US delivered vehicles will occur for several months. However, I am wondering what kind of deals/discounts people are now getting on 2004 gasoline E320/E500's? Is it likely that if I wait out the intitial demand for the CDI that I could get 5-7% off MSRP without going to Germany?
Finally, I've seen 2003 E320 sport with 2,500 miles, mint condition advertised in the Washington Post for $42,000 and a very low mileage 2003 E500 advertised a couple of weeks ago for $46,000. These seem like low prices compared to MSRP new. Further suggesting big dicounting on new E's??
Thanks for any responses.
#5566 of 6720 discount on 2004E
Jan 26, 2004 (12:33 pm)
there is some discounting on rear-wheel drive models, 3-5k i think. but none whatsoever on the 4matic, long wait list even w/ MSRP. i'm from NJ, ordered in mid aug., still haven't seen my new car yet.
#5567 of 6720 4-Matic wait list...
Jan 26, 2004 (3:41 pm)
"there is some discounting on rear-wheel drive models, 3-5k i think. but none whatsoever on the 4matic, long wait list even w/ MSRP. i'm from NJ, ordered in mid aug., still haven't seen my new car yet."
Hmmm, I find myself wondering if one wouldn't be better off getting the car now, taking the discount and buying a winter wheel tire set for about $1,000. A car magazine (C&D, I think) a couple of years ago did a lot of winter driving testing and determined that a RWD car shod with winter tires was easier to drive and safer (better acceleration, braking and handling) than an otherwise identical AWD car with all-season tires. FWIW, they actually used the E-Class both in RWD and AWD as one of their test mules.
Jan 26, 2004 (4:04 pm)
We have had a heinous winter here in Cleveland. I agree with shipo. My E500 (03') has performed well. Something has changed in the tech of the w211. My 2000 S430 and my wifes 2000 E320 wagon were very unsure in the snow. Some how my 03'E is perfect in bad snow and ice. My other frame of reference is our new 04' Volvo xc90 all wheel drive. I will not bother with 4-matic or AWD in the future unless it's part of the package(A8 etc.).
#5569 of 6720 jchk - car exchange
Jan 26, 2004 (5:23 pm)
No letter was ever sent to me, although I have seen different letters posted on other web sites. My dealer was in contact with me and handled the exchange. The major qualifying point for the exchange was that I had ordered the NAV system when I originally ordered the car. MB knew that the NAV was going to be delayed and gave everyone who ordered their cars a $500 discount on the NAV system ($2125 reg price minus $500 netted to $1625 which was paid for when the car came).
Last April, MBUSA finally contacted the dealers with the news that the cars could not be retrofitted with the NAV system. I was offered a choice of two options. First, get my $1625 back plus another $2000 for the hassle and keep my original car. Second choice was to re-order a brand new 2003 replacement car with the DVD-NAV installed. I took that choice, my dealer even threw in an additional option at no charge and I changed my color on the replacement car.
I have heard of others who did not pre-pay for the NAV but were able to prove that they were expecting a NAV system get a voucher for $3250 towards a new MB.
I hope this helps you.
#5570 of 6720 JPrescott -- Off Topic
Jan 26, 2004 (6:10 pm)
As my step-father, half-brother and step-siblings are all Prescotts, I was wondering, did any of your ancestors (pre 1940) live in and around the Mt. Pleasant area of Michigan?
#5571 of 6720 pickle005 / clembo
Jan 27, 2004 (3:01 pm)
Thanks for your response. I would likely order the 320CDI RWD even if they offer a 4-matic version. In researching older Mercedes 4-matics a bit, they tend to incur more long term maintenance and repair costs. Further, we will likely have an SUV in the household for the foreseeable future.
According to my research, the MSRP on the Comand/Nav system for 2004 is only $1,200. Is that a mistake, or did it come down a lot in price. That's one of the cheapest out there, considerably less than Acura's or Lexus' versions.
#5572 of 6720 Love the Car, But...
Jan 28, 2004 (2:48 pm)
I do love my 2003 E500. I have had no quality problems. I especially like the combination of the air spring suspension, the strong V-8 engine and grip like hell tires. They make the E500 a nimble, fun to drive luxo-car. The interior is awesome and I like the exterior, especially the front end! People come up to me all the time and comment on how much they like the styling. I think nothing commands like a Mercedes!
That said, I do have 2 things that are fairly annoying. I see them as design problems. First, the brake by wire brakes are hard to get used to. After 16,000 miles, I'm still not "used" to them. They are difficult to control. As I start to press down on the peddle, it seams like nothing happens, so I press just a tiny bit harder. That little extra pressure causes the brakes to come on hard and suddenly, I'm stopping faster than I need or want to. I think Car & Driver mentioned this issue, but I don't see any posters who are upset by it. I'm wondering why not? Maybe it's more noticeable in some cars than others? I'd like to see Mercedes fix this problem. I expect that it needs s/w to be re-programmed.
I also don't like the variable speed wiper. It never senses the correct speed to wipe the windows. When it's drizzling, the wiper doesn't come on soon enough. I like the way the wipers are controlled in other cars better. Set the speed and if it's too slow, crank it up a notch. If it's too fast slow it down a notch. I think Mercedes should fix this also.
Your comments, please.
#5573 of 6720 My comment
Jan 28, 2004 (3:45 pm)
I wish I had your problems...
#5574 of 6720 habitat1 - NAV
Jan 28, 2004 (4:05 pm)
I understand that the price for the NAV was lowered in 2004, I'm not sure if it is the exact same system or not. The price in 2003 was $2125, I don't know if anyone actually paid that amount due to the lack of availability until last summer.
I own an Acura MDX with a NAV system as well, I like the Acura system better, it has touch screen and voice activation. It is also easier to use although the MB version has a larger database which helps when you're travelling.
If you are thinking of buying a new E class, I would check with your dealer to get a full understanding of the NAV system before you buy, that being said, I'd get it. Also get the Logic 7 sound system, it's worth the money.